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    I think this thread is about the fundamental disconnect between Israeli perceptions that somehow they are, as a society not like everyone else, and the reality that they are. So a PM was assassinated. OK, you want dark nefarious reasons, complex narratives that outline the philosophy and ideology and locates the people who are 'really' at fault. You want the guy behind the guy behind the guy. Just look around or in the mirror. It's your country, your people. Lone crazed nutcases are everywhere, you have yours we do too. Your own AG seems to agree with me on this.

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    Ophra,

    I ate a lot of Gush Katif vegetables. I didn't get sick from any Pulsa-Denura poisoning from them, or read on any of the packaged vegetables any instructions to army soldiers to disobey orders. I tasted fresh Jewish Zionist pioneering, and a crisp direction for the Jewish and Zionist agenda for Israel.

    People need to see images of what these Jewish Zionist Pioneers built in the desert for their homes and businesses, for both local and export production, over the better part of their lifetimes.

    Ophra, why do you continue to be an Israeli travel agent for HELL ?

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    No Proof

    Quote Originally Posted by Ophra
    Mayim you are new here , I suggest that you take your time and get to know the regulars a bit before you jump in the deep end .
    You can do this by searching and reading old posts I'm getting tired posting the same old same old .... but here I go again :

    If you look up at Binyamin's post and read it again you will see that I answered him in the same refrain that he used . Get it ?
    If you look at Binyamin's profile you will see he is from the West Bank . Get it?

    "" Are you opposed to all religious Jews? Are all religious Jews on the Right? Do all religious Jews have policies of violence? ""
    No.

    "" Give examples of specifics. It keeps the argument from becoming emotional . Do you have proof to back up your statements? Great! list them. I am interested and can be influenced by a well thought out and substantiated argument. ""

    I don't have time today..... read some of my old posts. Even better do some research on Kach and Kahane Chai.


    Thank you for the kindhearted and well meaning suggestion. I was here reading way before I started posting. Just for the reason you outlined. I am sorry if I forgot something.

    I still believe that an argument is based on what I specified. I believe you were speaking in generalizations in your comment. I was trying to gently inform you that your comments were not completely understandable. Writing is all about taking time. Reading and editing.

    Argument is a logical way to discuss our ideas. When you argue you need to always be aware that what you say can be misunderstood. That is why you should carefully word your writings all of the time.

    I have read your posts in many threads and that is why I made the suggestion. I do not believe that the reader is resposible to understand what is not written. That would mean making an assumption about the writers intent.

    Are you suggesting I should know your opinion and assume what you mean by what you have posted in the past. What if you have changed your ideas? Or do you not intend to ever change your ideas? My goal in being here is to listen to peoples ideas and see if they influence me to change my ideas.

    I was taught, that it is the writer who is resposible for being sure they are not misunderstood. Not the reader.
    Last edited by Mayim; 08-12-2005 at 12:40 PM. Reason: wording

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    Cato
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    Incitement against Arabs is very easy to deal with, just shut down the people doing it.

    However inciting against your fellow jews is a much harder nut to crack, and the attorney general tipping his hate to the french precedent of denial as long as possible is disturbing, because this is the point were we all must work together to destroy the incitement campaign and end the truth behind the saying "Israelis never miss a chance to shoot themselves in the foot so other people won't have to" because that is what anti-liberal jew incitement does.

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