First we get the "there is no objective reality" argument. So, the left can argue... "oh, Arafat didn't mean everything he said... Trojan Horse? Plan of Phases... he was KIDDING!" , "oh, the polls from the Pal Arabs don't mean what they say they mean, people's opinions will change if we are really nice to them," "oh, the numbers of Pal Arabs who support IJ, Hamas, Al-aqsa, with the stated goal of destroying Israel... don't mean anything..." "oh, it doesn't matter that the intifah was pre-planned, it was Sharon's visit"... "it doesn't matter that the Pal Arabs are already smuggling stingers, etc. into Gaza... we need to give them more open borders with no Israeli defense mechanism and even an unregulated link!" etc. etc. etc.
No... there is objective reality, and then there is opinion which attempts to disregard objective reality. The (far) left, with their utopian ideals and intrinsic defeatism, hide behind these hail-mary-hopes because they don't believe that they can win the fight, if it comes to that.
As to the issue of "what happens if I'm wrong..." clearly, there are issue where you can say the right my do this - ie. the idea that we need to expell the Arabs right now, instead of taking more (reasonable) risks for peace.... well... if the right is wrong about the Pal Arabs, then the expulsion would be unjustified... first we need some more proof of their intentions (although the rejection of Camp David/Taba and what has been going on the last months, and the last years... is a lot of proof in of itself.)
But, if the left is wrong about the Pals and give them everything they want, Israel is in a precarious position in a war, although it would still likely wins. If you take a more cautious approach, and you are wrong... there are still risks, but its much more limited.
As to the Israel comment... interesting response. The idea that being an Israeli (thus taking the risks you are proposing) or having large ties or family there doesn't make much of a difference. Silly.
Lenin, or Stalin, whoever first talked about "usefull fools" was exactly right. But there is no excuse any more for being such a fool.
Originally Posted by Jorge