When will France surrender??

[Mediocrates]

You think France and Libya make stange bedfellows? Just making sure everyone is aware of this...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37021.stm

Libya is quite western facing. The elite speak Italian and French since it was a European colony. Small population, lots of oil, high standard of living. I fully expect Libya to join the EU Good Neighbor Program, possibly EU membership in the next several decades.

[Mediocrates]

Meanwhile Chirac went to Strasbourg to commemorate a WW2 concentration camp

http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/17850.html


that ought to get them out to break a few extra windows tonight.

[Ossian]

Libya is quite western facing. The elite speak Italian and French since it was a European colony. .

Well it was colony of the Roman Empire too and much of its population were Christians from day one. The 'Franj' there are descended from French crusader nobility. So it's links with Europe go back well over 2000 years. Why not a member of the E.U? (apart from it's geographical position!)

[CanDo]

as of 22:00 local time:

-- Two schools burned down in Grigny along with a paper recycling plant. 23 cars burned in Essone.

-- A school and 35 vehicles burned in Vigneux (before 10PM local time).

-- In Seine Saint Denis "many" cars have been torched and a gymnasium in Noisy le Grand is on fire.

-- In Seine et Marne an 18 wheeler was torched just in front of the technical high school -- fireman arriving at the scene were pelted with rocks.

-- Fire bombs are being used in Avignon, Saint-Dizier, Soissons, Nantes, Montauban, and in Loir-et-Cher.

-- Numerous attacks are reported in Northern France : Lille, Roubaix, Tourcoing, and Mons-en-Baroeuil.

-- Firemen report an 18 wheeler on fire in Lille and a bus burning in Auby.

-- Marseille has reported 3 burning cars (before 9PM local time).

-- Cannes and Nice also report torched vehicles.

-- Firemen have been attacked in Nice.

-- Toulouse reports half a dozen cars torched before 9PM local time.

Yahoo! website, France

and the night is still young on this tenth night

^_^

France's leaders are apparently hiding under their beds waiting for the moslem mobs to get tired of destroying France. We all know that the first and last attempts by France to stop the rioting will be one of appeasement. And.... we all know that appeasement never works. France will never learn this lesson.

Sadly, France will never be the same. The moslem world is witnessing the reality that moslem mob rule will dictate the future course of France. If only France had a courageous leader like Bush or Blair or Sharon, it would have a chance to survive.

[Ossian]

Re you signature quote:

"Islam is not a religion, it is a hate crime. "

If you were British you could be prosecuted under the incitment to racial and religious hatred bill...

[CanDo]

Re you signature quote:

"Islam is not a religion, it is a hate crime. "

If you were British you could be prosecuted under the incitment to racial and religious hatred bill...

That is not true. Fortunately, outside of the moslem world, there is still freedom of speech.

[Illuminatus]

"prosecuted" ?

sounds like a loyal courtier of Prince Charles (Defender of the Faiths) is blowing a fuse.....

^_^

[CanDo]

Re you signature quote:

"Islam is not a religion, it is a hate crime. "

If you were British you could be prosecuted under the incitment to racial and religious hatred bill...

Prove me wrong. Moslem culture is one of religious indocrination, and hatred towards everyone else. The moslem youth in France get a very poor moslem-based education, and a very strong hateful moslem indoctrination. The moslem youth has very little chance to be successful, even in the backward, third world moslem nations. In the progressive nations of the west and of Europe, and of most of the rest of the non-moslem world, brain-washed, unskilled, poorly educated moslem youths have no chance at all.

[Ossian]

"That is not true."

I think you would find that it is true!

And what's the big deal with Charles being defender of 'faiths' rather than just of the Church of England...are you an Anglican? what do you care? I don't.

[CanDo]

France has had a policy of appeasement towards the repressive, brain-washing moslem clergy, for decades. They have allowed the French moslem children to be indoctrinated with the very hateful Islamic religion for decades. The moslem clergy cares less that moslem youth has no hope and no future. Moslem clergy is just interested in maintaining their own selfish, greedy power base, and that is why there is so much misery and dispair and hatred and jealousy throughout the moslem world.

Unfortunately, I don't see France's policy of appeasement changing in the near future, so, sadly, the riots and intimidation of the French people, by moslems, will continue unabated.

[Ossian]

I respect the care and thought you give to the French people, but the things you describe bear no resemblance to the British Muslims i know personally.

I am not pro-muslim, but i am not anti them either! Unlike some people on this forum i am a mere mortal and find it impossible to hate millions of people i've never met.

[CanDo]

I respect the care and thought you give to the French people, but the things you describe bear no resemblance to the British Muslims i know personally.

I have to take your word for that.

I am not pro-muslim, but i am not anti them either! Unlike some people on this forum i am a mere mortal and find it impossible to hate millions of people i've never met.

We have that in common. I am totally against hate. I don't even hate the moslem rioters in France. I despise what they are doing, but I don't hate them. Obviously, I don't hate the French people either, but I am angry over the lack of backbone shown by French leaders. I am also upset over France's corrupt role in the Iraqi Oil for Food program.

I feel sorry for the people of France, and I feel sorry for the brainwashed, indoctrinated, backward moslem masses who have only learned the hateful Islam religion, and have almost no life skills.

[Mediocrates]

I feel sorry for the people of France, and I feel sorry for the brainwashed, indoctrinated, backward moslem masses who have only learned the hateful Islam religion, and have almost no life skills.

I doubt these are crowds of the holy. Probably just young people out for a nice mob. Probably 'secular', poor, idle and having nothing to fill their time with. The French authorities have no plan to deal with this because it's basically something with no purpose and no core. Let it work itself out is probably the best course of action. I wouldn't worry about it.

[CanDo]

Let it work itself out is probably the best course of action. I wouldn't worry about it.

I am not worried. That's probably because I don't live in France, or anywhere else in Europe. If I lived in France, or anywhere else in Europe, I would seriously be looking for a safer place to live. Eventually moslem hoards will roll over Europe, and European Christians will have to flee to their own country. It could be named Eurestine. The moslems would then attack Eurestine over and over again in an attempt to murder all of Europes Christians. Most of the world would ignore the plight of the European Christians by continuing to appease the violent, racist moslems. The US and Israel would probably be the only countries with the balls to stand up against moslem terrorism, as they do now.

Getting back on topic..... After France is burned to the ground do you think that the US could then use the empty land for a military base?

[Mediocrates]

I am not worried. That's probably because I don't live in France, or anywhere else in Europe. If I lived in France, or anywhere else in Europe, I would seriously be looking for a safer place to live.

My French relatives don't agree with you. Street riots are par for the course if you live there long enough. So this too will blow over.

Eventually moslem hoards will roll over Europe, and European Christians will have to flee to their own country. It could be named Eurestine. The moslems would then attack Eurestine over and over again in an attempt to murder all of Europes Christians.

Wishful thinking, apocalyptic hopes.

Most of the world would ignore the plight of the European Christians by continuing to appease the violent, racist moslems. The US and Israel would probably be the only countries with the balls to stand up against moslem terrorism, as they do now.

Most of Europe considers itself irreligious anyhow.