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    sharonbn
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    English is a diffi... difficult language

    Amir Peretz is the new chairman of the Labor party.
    He gave a speech in English well... sorta English... at the opening of the new Rabin center.

    Hit play on the Video box.

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3169166,00.html

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    JFK's famous

    "Ich bin ein Berliner"

    Translates ideomatically to

    "I am a pastry"
    since a Berliner is a pastry. What he meant to say was

    "Ich bin Berliner"


    But to be fair whenever I hear Bush speak it sounds like he's the translator.

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    Saffira
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharonbn
    Amir Peretz is the new chairman of the Labor party.
    He gave a speech in English well... sorta English... at the opening of the new Rabin center.

    Hit play on the Video box.

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3169166,00.html
    Hey, his English is not too bad, but when I press play, my system closes down, so I have to re-start the internet service again. Twice I had to re-start AOL.

    Lucky I have broadband and not a 56k dial up modem.

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    genghis_tom
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    My personal favorite example of the fallacies of English comes from a newspaper headline...
    "Giant Police Exercise to Guard Bush"

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    Ariksan
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    It's even more disastrous when you think that he probably didn't write the speech in English himself but only had to read what was given to him by a translator or his aide. English isn't my native tongue either but Hebrew and I don't think that he should be able to speak perfect queen's English. But as a leader aspiring for greater roles which will include international relations a certain degree of understanding of the English language should be a self-evident requirement. But in Israel having success in the political realm has much more to do with nepotism and dirty games then with actual achievement and qualification.

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    Toga
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    Only the stupid Jews will pick a leader of the opposition who looks like a truck driver with a truck driver's mentality. Don't get me wrong! I have nothing against the truck drivers and many of them are great people but how many of them are of the Prime Minister's material. A leader must be a good communicator, be well educated, have a great command of English, be worldly, have a presence, etc. Unfortunately, Peretz is void of all such quailities. Does he even speak Arabic? Let's hope he does!

    In any case, Jews could have done better but what do we know? Hopefully, the Arabs will like him as he comes across as underachiver.

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    KSO
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    Why should he speak english? does the american president speaks hebrew?

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    Toga
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    The USA is dependent on Israel but not as much as Israel is dependent on the USA.

    English is the international language of commerce, politics, etc. It is spoken by the most advanced countries in the world. The majority of the Israelis speak English. The knowledge of English is sufficient to function in Israel. It is also a beautiful language. It is shameful that the leader of the opposition does not have a good command of it.

    He may not fit to be a leader!

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    KSO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toga
    The USA is dependent on Israel but not as much as Israel is dependent on the USA.

    English is the international language of commerce, politics, etc. It is spoken by the most advanced countries in the world. The majority of the Israelis speak English. The knowledge of English is sufficient to function in Israel. It is also a beautiful language. It is shameful that the leader of the opposition does not have a good command of it.

    He may not fit to be a leader!
    The US is not dependent on Israel at all, Israel can dissapear tommorow and 95% of Americans won't even notice, the Israeli dependance is a different thing though.
    b. Knowledge of english is important but apparently not crucial, I don't see the leaders of Russia, China Or the US get any less respect for not speaking english.
    c. What is fit to be a leader? I kinda learned to like sharon for one reason only he is the first Israeli-Arab dictator, the great thing about him that he could be syria's or egypt's president and no one will notice, but my opinion on Peretz is: "Can a union leader with a giant moustache become the Prime Minister of Israel? Hopefully yes.

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    Ariksan
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    Why should he speak english? does the american president speaks hebrew?
    This has nothing to do with the US. As Toga noted English is the international language of commerce. All international contracts are in English - most agreements he would have to sign will be in English. Every company in the world and Israel with international relations or international business interests will only hire people that speak and understand English - it's not have to be perfect like a native speaker but at the very least cambridge first or advanced certicate if not proficiency for middle and upper management. But couriously the requirements for Prime Minister are much lower .

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    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    The US is not dependent on Israel at all, Israel can dissapear tommorow and 95% of Americans won't even notice, the Israeli dependance is a different thing though.
    b. Knowledge of english is important but apparently not crucial, I don't see the leaders of Russia, China Or the US get any less respect for not speaking english.
    c. What is fit to be a leader? I kinda learned to like sharon for one reason only he is the first Israeli-Arab dictator, the great thing about him that he could be syria's or egypt's president and no one will notice, but my opinion on Peretz is: "Can a union leader with a giant moustache become the Prime Minister of Israel? Hopefully yes.
    Obviously, you don't understand the interdependence in the world. Israel is an American line of defense. Israel was instrumental for the USA in the disintegration of the USSR.

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    KSO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toga
    Obviously, you don't understand the interdependence in the world. Israel is an American line of defense. Israel was instrumental for the USA in the disintegration of the USSR.
    Ahhh no.

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    minusthejihad
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    Why should he speak english? does the american president speaks hebrew?
    Because in today's business marketplace, English is the first language. You really didn't understand that?

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    minusthejihad
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    Ahhh no.
    Funny, but I don't think your posts here have enough importance or clout for anyone to believe an "Ahhh no" out of you.

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    genghis_tom
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    KSO says "the US is not dependent on Israel at all, Israel can dissapear tommorow and 95% of Americans won't even notice..."
    I agree with Toga, and want to add a bit of my own. Many people I know are very concerned with the events of the middle east. Should Israel disappear, you cannot imagine what the resulting outcry would be. American-Israeli relations have been, and will continue to be, very strong.

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