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    Toga
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    Never trust Her Majesty's subjects. They are venomous snakes!

    U.K. report: Israel attempts to annex east Jerusalem

    A confidential report by the British Foreign Ministry accuses Israel of trying to annex parts of eastern Jerusalem, the Guardian newspaper has revealed.

    The report claims that the government tried to prevent the area from becoming the Palestinian capital by constructing illegal settlements in the territory.

    According to the Guardian, British Foreign Minister Jack Straw has presented the report's findings before a U.N. committee, which postponed taking on the subject due to Italian pressure. (Ynet)

    Click here for more Israel news from Ynetnews.com

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    Ossian
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    Toga

    Jack Straw is Jewish himself, i don't think he's a 'venomous snake' regarding Israel, and it was a confidential report that has been leaked. What is the truth then Toga?

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    SteveK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    Jack Straw is Jewish himself, i don't think he's a 'venomous snake' regarding Israel, and it was a confidential report that has been leaked. What is the truth then Toga?
    Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Martyn Indyk is also a Jew. His public comment, besides sympathizing with a "Palestinian" [terror] state, was:
    "Jerusalem is not the purview of only one religion".

    Martyn Indyk's comments, as a Jew, prompted the late Israeli Minister and Member of Knesset, Rahavam Ze'evi (assassinated by a "Palestinian" Arab animal) to call this self-hating Jew publically a "Jew Boy".

    The self-hating Jew species is not uncommon among the Israelis, themselves, too.

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    Ossian
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    do you or other Israeli's think all of Jerusalem should be under sole Israeli authority? I though it was kind of 'shared' at the moment?

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    Roland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    Jack Straw is Jewish himself
    Yes? Source?

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    SteveK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    do you or other Israeli's think all of Jerusalem should be under sole Israeli authority? I though it was kind of 'shared' at the moment?
    Do you know anything about 3,500+ years of Jewish heritage?

    2,000 years of which were generations of Torah true and God fearing Jews who brought the Jewish heritage through bitter exile and unspeakable persecutions?

    DO you think that Christianity and Islam changes it all for the Jews?

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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    Jack Straw is Jewish himself, i don't think he's a 'venomous snake' regarding Israel, and it was a confidential report that has been leaked. What is the truth then Toga?
    Some of our worst enemies, are Jews. Amnon Shahak, Ilan Papa or Noam Chomsky are among the most quoted "Jews" by neo-nazi and Arabist propaganda sources.

    Being Jew, does not mean being loyal to yourself or your tribe. Self interest and greed drive some Jews against their own people, just like any other traitors.

    As for the article... it is most weired, since Israel law has annexed estern Jerusalem officialy, by law in circa 1980. Which enraged planty of Americans at the time. So annexing east Jerusalem isn't any particular seacret. Hundred of thousands of Jews live work and even procreate in "eastern Jerusalem".

    I think it time Israel should leack a "seacret report" about British conspiracy to annex Bermingham... snach it right off the hands of Islamist rule.

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    ygalg1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    do you or other Israeli's think all of Jerusalem should be under sole Israeli authority? I though it was kind of 'shared' at the moment?
    It is best it will stay in our care

    And Jerusalem is Jewish capital you can't ignore it an despite the facts we did not stop from Christians nor Muslims to come to their house of pray but just imagine what happen if we loose the grip of it


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    Illuminatus
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    " woe Nelly !! "

    Vanity Fair (a New York magazine) quoted Tam Dalyell the Labour MP for Linlithgow and, as the longest serving MP, as making some outspoken anti-semitic (IMHO) remarks a couple of years back.

    In a passage on Blair’s "staunch" support of Israel, Vanity Fair writer David Margolick wrote:

    [..The senior member of the House of Commons, Tam Dalyell, even tells me he thinks Blair is unduly influenced by a cabal of Jewish advisers. He mentions Mandelson, Lord Levy and Jack Straw. ..]

    I believe Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and Mendelson have some Jewish ancestry.

    However, neither Straw nor Mendelson identify themselves as Jewish.

    Only in Hitler’s Germany would either man have been classed as such. But then maybe this is just that same old EUtopian nature that still classes its very own citizens as "Jewish".

    I think (and I could be wrong) Lord Levy, Tony Blair's Middle East envoy, adhere's to the Jewish faith. But that hardly makes for a "cabal".

    The VF article is just two years old, apparently it's now folk lore and the gospel truth.
    - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The dictionary defines the word "cabal" as a secret political clique or faction involved in plots or conspiracy. Webster says that it is derived from the Kabbalah, the Jewish tradition of mysticism.

    Anxieties about a "Jewish conspiracy" go back to the beginning of the 14th century, when French Jews were accused of poisoning wells on behalf of the Muslim King of Granada [Carlo Ginzburg, Ecstasies, English Tr.1990].

    The Labour MP remarks show that EUtopia has a long, long ways to go. Thus, they still need "Adult Supervision" in the form of an effective US military presence on the EUroland mass.

    -- Nelly was the name of a sometimes excitable donkey that belong to an aging gold miner named Jed on the "Roy Rogers Cowboy Show" (circa 1951).

    ^_^
    Last edited by Illuminatus; 11-25-2005 at 04:06 AM. Reason: add citing re: the King of Granada

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    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossian
    Jack Straw is Jewish himself, i don't think he's a 'venomous snake' regarding Israel, and it was a confidential report that has been leaked. What is the truth then Toga?

    WHat the anti-Semites like you do not understand that the ethnic background of a high British official is not relevant. Who cares if he is Jewish?

    Britain has a history of anti-Semitism going back to the York massacre.

    PS. My dog is more Jewish than Jack Straw. Just because he had somebody Jewish in his family does not make him Jewish.

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    Hey now. Some of my best friends are Her Majesty's subjects.
    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

    Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Hey now. Some of my best friends are Her Majesty's subjects.
    Yeah...and some of my friends are venomous British snakes!

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    Ossian
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    Illuminatus - ~I think what your referring to is in his article.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2999219.stm

    the bbc confirms that Jack Straw has Jewish ancestry ...that's what i've taken my info from not an anti semite. I don't think he's a practicing Jew, he' does'nt seem religious - his name is taken from a 14th century English peasant leader. Cool Huh! I though his mother was Jewish, apparently she wanted him to be a rabbi or something.


    Toga,

    why did you call me an anti semite...? when you use that word like you do..it loses all meaning...i'm not. Just 'cos you call me one for no apparent reason does'nt make me one.

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    Ossian
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveK
    Do you know anything about 3,500+ years of Jewish heritage?

    2,000 years of which were generations of Torah true and God fearing Jews who brought the Jewish heritage through bitter exile and unspeakable persecutions?

    DO you think that Christianity and Islam changes it all for the Jews?
    hmm..i was just asking a question....I thought it was shared at the moment 'tis all.

    I am not a religious person, i'm not Jewish. So I 'm obviously am not thinking along the same lines as you are. From a secular viewpoint, yes i think Christianity and Islam has changed Jerusalem over the centuries. Historically it's obvious. I think that Israel has a right to claim all of Jerusalem as it capital, however, the fact that there are churches and mosques there that have been there for many centuries and that mean a heck of a lot to millions of people all around the world; i think should'nt be ignored. That's what i meant by sharing...i though Israelis had no problem with the different 'quarter's in Jerusalem. That's what i was asking.

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    Ossian
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    Toga

    "Britain has a history of anti-Semitism going back to the York massacre."


    Those Bloody Normans at it again...there is no 'theme' here...we're talking Britain 2005 not 12th century Norman England. Sorry to break it to you...

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