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    atricnorth
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    what do you israelians and diaspora jews think of this?

    check this out

    i find this shocking

    jews embracing the god of the mecca? WTH

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    KettleWhistle
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    First off, it's "Israeli," not "isralian." And yes, there are loons who believe nonsense like this:
    From news article:

    "The hardest task for me was Shabbat, as I was raised to believe that a Jew who doesn't observe Shabbat is no longer a Jew."

    Sometimes they convert out. Good riddance.


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    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    check this out

    i find this shocking

    jews embracing the god of the mecca? WTH

    Shocking? LOL! We have always had mad, delusional, nutty Jews. What do you think we don't have bad apples? We do! In addition, the Jews featured in that article had been featured before. It is another sensational, dumb piece. There are maybe 5-10 Jews who went crazy in Israel. Apparently, Jpost.com wants to increase its readership and there is no better way to do it than to throw a few twisted Jews at us.

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    Aviva
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    Aisha was formerly known as Rebecca. Half British and half Polish, she converted to Islam after she married a man of Pakistani origin. But by no means, she hastily adds, did she decide to convert because she felt forced to.
    Hmmm. That says it all, doesn't it.

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    atricnorth
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    i guess i was shocked cos i didn't expect israelis to become converts.

    sad

    true but one family had 5 children, does that mean anything to you?

    furthermore, orthodox jews have more children than secular

    if these guys become muslims, i would be concern for the next generation

    but that's my own opinion

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    Nothing to be shocked about. Some convert in, some convert out.

    The Muslim religion is not without appeal, especially for a Jewish person because of certain similarities. Plus Islam is an agressively prozelityzing religion, with a lot of resources and efforts invested into attracting converts. Plus Islam is in the spotlight these days, it's a political hot potato, its fashionable in some intellectual circles (you know, the ones who were into Communism during the last season). Naturally, many do convert.

    Keep in mind, though, that such conversion is often strictly formal and superficial. A girl who used to be my student in a Jewish school back in Belarus met an Arab guy (a great guy, I must say, I've met him) in Israel and converted to Islam in order to marry him (otherwise his family wouldn't agree). But when I met her on my cousin sister's wedding, she wore the skimpiest outfit of all the girls invited to the party. Both her and her husband live a perfectly secular lifestyle, and there isn't a grain of Muslim faith or observance in her.
    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

    Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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    atricnorth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Nothing to be shocked about. Some convert in, some convert out.

    The Muslim religion is not without appeal, especially for a Jewish person because of certain similarities. Plus Islam is an agressively prozelityzing religion, with a lot of resources and efforts invested into attracting converts. Plus Islam is in the spotlight these days, it's a political hot potato, its fashionable in some intellectual circles (you know, the ones who were into Communism during the last season). Naturally, many do convert.

    Keep in mind, though, that such conversion is often strictly formal and superficial. A girl who used to be my student in a Jewish school back in Belarus met an Arab guy (a great guy, I must say, I've met him) in Israel and converted to Islam in order to marry him (otherwise his family wouldn't agree). But when I met her on my cousin sister's wedding, she wore the skimpiest outfit of all the girls invited to the party. Both her and her husband live a perfectly secular lifestyle, and there isn't a grain of Muslim faith or observance in her.

    ok, but i dont agree with her being a muslim

    even though a not practicing one.

    creeps me out

    and i dont expect that to happen since i am a christian, furthermore even makes me worried

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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    ok, but i dont agree with her being a muslim

    even though a not practicing one.

    creeps me out

    and i dont expect that to happen since i am a christian, furthermore even makes me worried

    Both Christianity and Islam are missionary religions.

    creeps me out
    That demonstrates your intolerance and hatred which are very bad.

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    ygalg1
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    http://www.mentalblog.com/2005/06/mo...rly-named.html
    file:///C:/WINDOWS/קובצי%20אינטרנט%2...334%5B1%5D.jpg
    Mahdi, who was born Jewish in Azerbaijan, immigrated to Israel and lived as a Jewish settler in the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba, near Hebron. Seven years ago he converted to Islam and now Al-Mahdi lives in the West Bank city of Hebron, married to a Muslim woman. Picture taken June 16. REUTERS/Nayef Hashlamoun

    Azerbaijan
    Religions: Muslim 93.4%, Russian Orthodox 2.5%, Armenian Orthodox 2.3%, other 1.8% (1995 est.)
    note: religious affiliation is still nominal in Azerbaijan; percentages for actual practicing adherents are much lower
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/aj.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    ok, but i dont agree with her being a muslim

    even though a not practicing one.

    creeps me out

    and i dont expect that to happen since i am a christian, furthermore even makes me worried
    Well I would also prefer her being Jewish- but as far as I am concerned, it's what she does and what kind of person she is that matters. She can be an African animist for all I care, as long as she is a good person.
    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

    Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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    Posted by Womble:

    She can be an African animist for all I care, as long as she is a good person.

    As long as she does not engage in reading fictional-stories composed by one Rezun aka Suvorov - she is ok in my book
    Mil - stands for the countless MILlions of reasons not to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygalg1
    http://www.mentalblog.com/2005/06/mo...rly-named.html
    file:///C:/WINDOWS/קובצי%20אינטרנט%2...334%5B1%5D.jpg
    Mahdi, who was born Jewish in Azerbaijan, immigrated to Israel and lived as a Jewish settler in the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba, near Hebron. Seven years ago he converted to Islam and now Al-Mahdi lives in the West Bank city of Hebron, married to a Muslim woman. Picture taken June 16. REUTERS/Nayef Hashlamoun

    Azerbaijan
    Religions: Muslim 93.4%, Russian Orthodox 2.5%, Armenian Orthodox 2.3%, other 1.8% (1995 est.)
    note: religious affiliation is still nominal in Azerbaijan; percentages for actual practicing adherents are much lower
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/aj.html
    That is where I am from. Compared to other Muslims, the Azerbaijanis treated the Jews very well, at least in Baku. The same can't be said for Armenians, but at least under Russian rule everyone had to get along. Many Safardi Jews I know from my home towm get along great with Muslim Azerbaijanis and you can barely tell them apart. This may explain why he converted, perhaps everyone he knew and related to were Muslims. But who cares, we don't hunt down and kill OUR apostates!

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    Ariksan
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    How comes he can live in Hevron?!

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    ygalg1
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    I have a relative whom drawn to messianic Jew (Christian missioner) he never was raised to Judaism and he immigrate to Israel 15 ago

    I ones debate with him and he says to me well your chabad adherents can believe rabbi melovavtich is a messiah why can not I believe Jesus is...again Jews complicating themselves (those chabad)



    The reason why it’s happening Judaism its too heavy on them they want simpler system of believe

    It does not take years of process to convert to Islam or to Christianity

    Judaism is! It’s like the Special Forces or the Air force demands only for the best and that means if you cannot pass the difficulties you flunk out. And these that tried and failed find alternative in Reform Judaism, Christianity, and Islam cause they been acepted in open arms (they could plain follow the 7 laws of noah)



    Why would Jews convert to another system of religion? It’s as similar for some Jews to live secular life and still persist Judaism to be the right religion (per our Jewish understanding) the laws seems too difficult to follow
    some of the laws been followed without even need to take a glance to the scriptures cause there are laws are basic to human life and secular Jews taking participants on Jewish occasions as celebrating Jewish holydays eating kosher food etc

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    Can't help bragging........hehehehhe

    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    i guess i was shocked cos i didn't expect israelis to become converts.
    H'mmmm, may i brag a little bit here if you don't all mind??

    Of course i may

    Nearly all chinese Muslims today are exjews.

    Furthermore, most Jews on Arab lands converted to Islam. Islam has more in common with Judaism than it does with Christianity since the Christians do not regard the Old Testament laws as binding.

    Rabbi Tovia Singer, (the chat show host,in New York) who specialises in bringing Jews back from Christianity and Islam says he has managed to get about 300 (in a space of some years) back from Christianity, but of the ones that go to Islam not one came back. '

    Israeli's who convert to Islam face discrimination (see links below) . I don't like the sound of that! (( That's not nice.






    Most Chinese Jews convertd to Islam
    http://faculty.rmwc.edu/fwebb/buck/e...ewishcommunity

    Problems that face Israeli Jews who convert to Islam
    Joseph Algazy, Haaretz 12 Dec. 2002
    http://oznik.com/words/021212.html

    Rabbi of Makhachkala synagogue embraced Islam (Russia)
    http://eng.islam.ru/newmuslims/rabbi/

    "Jewish Extremist" Converts To Islam
    http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART/884/607.html

    Anxiety in Israel as hundreds of Jews convert to Islam
    (Agencies)7 June 2004

    http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayA...middleeast&col

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