Its Not Working

[alexbmn]

oh man arent we forgetting something? After a series of devastating suicide attacks IN 1996 the Israelis elected Nataniahu and dumped Peres,and thats when terror stopped. I've just read an article on Haeretz that the left is unhappy with Bush's speech.It seems that they are more of a fifth column then Israeli Arabs could ever be.After all who armed Arafat with modern weapons and let him loose? Thank God they are being marginalized to nothing.

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by sharonbn


As was shown in 1996, the Palestinians are capable of stopping the terrorist groups if they so desire. They can do it better than any Israeli army.

As for me, I prefer to be deluded than facsist.

I'm not surprised you think those are the only choices.

That's what 'being deluded' means.

[MGB8]

First, yes checkpoints and closures ARE a form of "collective punishment."

On the other hand, we all get screened and have to wait before boarding an airplane...isn't that "collective punishment" in your definition, to the acts of a MUCH SMALLER minority.

The bottom line is that checkpoints and closures are the LEAST intrusive way to stop terrorists, who's admitted goal is to destroy Israel and who have said they will continue regardless of a Palestinian Arab state, from killing people.

In other words, there really isn't much choice if you are not willing to sacrifice the lives of innocents.

As for the "give them what they want..." the problem is that many, the majority, want MORE. And they will continue to want more, and will have a safehaven to build and attack from, and it will require another war...and guess what, to terrorists, world opinoin means squat. Do you think that Hamas cares what world opinion of THEM (as opposed to Israel, because they can harm the enemy that way) is?

[MGB8]

BTW - 27 Palestinians, including 10 wanted terrorists, were found being smuggled in 2 red cresent ambulances over the weekend.

Action...reaction.

[Vic]

Originally posted by MGB8
BTW - 27 Palestinians, including 10 wanted terrorists, were found being smuggled in 2 red cresent ambulances over the weekend.

To be exact:

Also in Ramallah, Israeli troops stopped two Palestinian ambulances and found 27 people packed inside — ten of them suspected of involvement in shooting or bombing attacks, a military source said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...estinians_5270

Ambulances again... Is it some specific tactic, designed to lead Israelis to attack them for the sake of a big show, should innoncents suffer (cf. Jenin)? Or do the Palestinians just honestly lack other "safe" transportation means?