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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    Iran supports Hezbollah to the tune of 40 million USD/month. Add to that another 50 million USD/month and you have a little more than a billion dollars a year. Iran's total GDP is about 450 billion/year. That's actually quite a lot of money for them. I suspect they'll pay for a few months then quietly stop.
    Iran's GDP is nearly $700 Billion

    Their REAL GDP is about $180-220 Billion

    Iran has alot of funds in foreign reserves due to higher oil prices. Are you aware of how much Israel funds the Kurds?


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    Quote Originally Posted by csite
    Iran's GDP is nearly $700 Billion

    Their REAL GDP is about $180-220 Billion

    Iran has alot of funds in foreign reserves due to higher oil prices. Are you aware of how much Israel funds the Kurds?


    OK around USD550 billion PPP basis. None the less that would be like us sending 22 billion dollars to help out 1 million people somewhere. Quite a bit of money. Moreover it's unlikely that Hamas has the mechanical ability to accept large amounts of aid, transparent or not. They are after all a paramilitary terrorist organization that doesn't generally open an NGO storefront with ties to commercial or national banks. Given that, aid from Iran will likely wind up as baksheesh or equipment eg. machinery, weapons, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    OK around USD550 billion PPP basis. None the less that would be like us sending 22 billion dollars to help out 1 million people somewhere. Quite a bit of money. Moreover it's unlikely that Hamas has the mechanical ability to accept large amounts of aid, transparent or not. They are after all a paramilitary terrorist organization that doesn't generally open an NGO storefront with ties to commercial or national banks. Given that, aid from Iran will likely wind up as baksheesh or equipment eg. machinery, weapons, etc.
    Hamas has been funded by Saudi Arabia for years, Iran can fund Hamas, but there is a legal claim Israel can have that they are a terrorist org. So i guess Iran can send the money to the PA or to Abbas, well anyhow there are ways to transfer the money.

    and here is details of Iran's economy

    http://www.economist.com/countries/I...file-FactSheet

    Bloated economy but non the less improving thanks to higher oil prices.

    I personally think it was a mistake to cut funding to Hamas, if Saudi Arabia and Kuwait also step up to increase funding for the short fall of American aid, things can get pretty ugly for American and Palestinian relations. It's even more interesting Russia jumping in to have some control over the peace process too.

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    Iran is more interested in investing money into violence against Israel. Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist groups in addition to their humanitarian resources. Why would Iranians(Persians) support Arabs that are so far away? the only common ground Pals and Iranians have is hate of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by physics
    Iran is more interested in investing money into violence against Israel. Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist groups in addition to their humanitarian resources. Why would Iranians(Persians) support Arabs that are so far away? the only common ground Pals and Iranians have is hate of Israel.
    Iran helped Hezbollah to protect shia's of Lebanon, they helped Hamas for their civilian population since they are in power now, Iran doesn't like Israel, that's no secret but they are not funding Hamas to kills Jewish civilians. Israel funds and trains Kurds who conduct terrorist activities too in Iraq, Iran and Turkey!

    Iran's main concern is regional influence and the condition of shia Muslims. Iran doesn't need Hamas, nor do they need to fund Hamas for terrorism, Hezbollah is more than capable to do 10 x the damage Hamas could only imagine to Israeli civilians.

    Mind you Hezbollah’s military wing is a terrorist org. their political wing isn’t. Hamas should be the same. Also both are not recognised terrorist org’s by the UN, just by America and the EU.

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    Yeah unfortunately that's a rather meaningless distinction. Hezbollah and Hamas use their purported social action organizations as recruitment tools for terrorism. It's the friendly face of terrorism and we chose, not them, to turn a blind eye to.

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    im ashamed to live in europe... just found out that we have been the biggest funder to the PA

    at least in 2003 I think i was, we gave them 1,4 billion$, thats just insane becource there is still no infactruckure, an no one knows where the money went !! and we still keep the fund floading to them... who is the terroist ?

    nice to know where all the tax money is going !

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    Quote Originally Posted by csite
    Hamas has stuck to a truce for about a year,
    Yeah right!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csite
    things can get pretty ugly for American and Palestinian relations.

    BOO HOO! You see these tears I'm crying? Yes, they ARE in fact Crocadile Tears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csite
    Israel funds and trains Kurds who conduct terrorist activities too in Iraq, Iran and Turkey!
    I'm sorry Waitress, but when you come back, can I get some PROOF with that? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sutter
    im ashamed to live in europe... just found out that we have been the biggest funder to the PA

    at least in 2003 I think i was, we gave them 1,4 billion$, thats just insane becource there is still no infactruckure, an no one knows where the money went !! and we still keep the fund floading to them... who is the terroist ?

    nice to know where all the tax money is going !
    Hi Sutter! Welcome to IF. Yes, its terrible. On a good note, I watched the Robyn concert viedostream at P3. Did you catch it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minusthejihad
    I'm sorry Waitress, but when you come back, can I get some PROOF with that? Thanks.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...177712,00.html
    http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=13704
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...655993,00.html
    http://www.meforum.org/article/569

    Quote Originally Posted by minusthejihad
    BOO HOO! You see these tears I'm crying? Yes, they ARE in fact Crocadile Tears!

    Look at it this way, the Palestinians have little to lose, they are already very poor, Israel is the one losing the foreign investment and they are the ones who would suffer the most from another Israel Palestinian infidela. I heard even the church is pulling out investment from Jerusalem!

    im ashamed to live in europe... just found out that we have been the biggest funder to the PA

    at least in 2003 I think i was, we gave them 1,4 billion$, thats just insane becource there is still no infactruckure, an no one knows where the money went !! and we still keep the fund floading to them... who is the terroist ?

    nice to know where all the tax money is going !
    Sweden isn't helping much i tell you that! most of it comes from France, Germany, UK and Italy. Also from Japan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and America.

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    Thank you. I appreciate it. Now what is wrong with that? And by the way, you only showed evidence that Israel helped train Kurds in Iraq, hardly the statement that Israel "funds and trains Kurds who conduct terrorist activities too in Iraq, Iran and Turkey!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by csite
    Look at it this way, the Palestinians have little to lose, they are already very poor, Israel is the one losing the foreign investment and they are the ones who would suffer the most from another Israel Palestinian infidela. I heard even the church is pulling out investment from Jerusalem!
    Oh no! Not the Church!!!!! Well, considering Israel is a Jewish State, I'm not sad to see them go. And its funny you called it the "infidela" LOL! Freudian slip? You should have called it the Palestinian "impotenta".

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    Actually, Israel has been gaining foreign investment in the last two years, not losing it.

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