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    Study: Most Ashkenazi Jews Decend From Four Women

    Study: Most Ashkenazi Jews From Four Women

    NEW YORK Jan 12, 2006 — Some 3.5 million of today's Ashkenazi Jews about 40 percent of the total Ashkenazi population are descended from just four women, a genetic study indicates.

    Those women apparently lived somewhere in Europe within the last 2,000 years, but not necessarily in the same place or even the same century, said lead author Dr. Doron Behar of the Rambam Medical Center in Haifa, Israel.

    He did the work with Karl Skorecki of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology and others

    Each woman left a genetic signature that shows up in their descendants today, he and colleagues say in a report published online by the American Journal of Human Genetics. Together, their four signatures appear in about 40 percent of Ashkenazi Jews, while being virtually absent in non-Jews and found only rarely in Jews of non-Ashkenazi origin, the researchers said.

    They said the total Ashkenazi population is estimated at around 8 million people. The estimated world Jewish population is about 13 million.

    Ashkenazi Jews are a group with mainly central and eastern European ancestry. Ultimately, though, they can be traced back to Jews who migrated from Israel to Italy in the first and second centuries, Behar said. Eventually this group moved to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries and expanded greatly, reaching about 10 million just before World War II, he said.

    The study involved mitochondrial DNA, called mtDNA, which is passed only through the mother. A woman can pass her mtDNA to grandchildren only by having daughters. So mtDNA is "the perfect tool to trace maternal lineages," Behar said Thursday in a telephone interview.

    His study involved analyzing mtDNA from more than 11,000 samples representing 67 populations.

    Mike Hammer, who does similar research at the University of Arizona, said he found the work tracing back to just four ancestors "quite plausible… I think they've done a really good job of tackling this question."

    But he said it's not clear the women lived in Europe.

    "They may have existed in the Near East," Hammer said. "We don't know exactly where the four women were, but their descendants left a legacy in the population today, whereas … other women's descendants did not."

    Behar said the four women he referred to did inherit their genetic signatures from female ancestors who lived in the Near East. But he said he preferred to focus on these later European descendants because they were at the root of the Ashkenazi population explosion.
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    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

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    I know those four women, 3 of them are very nice, but miss rosenblatt is a bit cranky...

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    It is so nice to know you are in Canada!

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    I can also guess the lastnames:

    Kats, Rabinovich, Tsukerman, and Kogan
    Mil - stands for the countless MILlions of reasons not to work.

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    40% isn't the majority. What about the other 60% of Ashkenazi Jews? can anyone explain their backgrounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mil
    I can also guess the lastnames:

    Kats, Rabinovich, Tsukerman, and Kogan
    I was thinking more along the lines of Sarah, Rivka, Rachel, and Leah.
    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

    Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    Cתחנק מזרע של כלב נבלה מטונפת
    Language, young man, language
    “This is a reality but I won’t deal with it in terms of recognizing or admitting it.”

    Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Language, young man, language
    That's perefectlly good language, quite an ancient one too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Language, young man, language
    What did he say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toga
    What did he say?
    I wished you a happy new year and a wonderful life

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSO
    I wished you a happy new year and a wonderful life
    I am sure of it. See, if you had a Jewish soul which you don't you would not have said what you said.

    By the way, can a non-Jew who leaves Israel be defined as a Yored or that definition only applies to Jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    I was thinking more along the lines of Sarah, Rivka, Rachel, and Leah.
    me too

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