IDF set to expel bombers' families

**NewsGuy** · 06-22-2002, 03:29 PM

From Haaretz:

IDF set to expel bombers' families

The political-security cabinet decided on Friday that Israel Defense Forces troops will enter Palestinian cities in the West Bank and operate in them for "as long as it is required." The decision also authorized Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to order a future operation in the Gaza Strip.

The cabinet decided in principle in favor both of the expulsion of families of suicide strikers from the West Bank to the Gaza Strip, and of the expulsion of terror operatives from the territories. The implementation of this expulsion policy depends upon the outcome of a legal review...

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This is a good start.

Now we just need to continue with the expulsion of the rest of the terrorism-supporting Palestinians until the terror ends.

Do you think that this tactic will bring an end to the Palestinian war of terrorism against Israel?

elke · 06-22-2002, 03:32 PM

The only question is, where to expel them to? Do they have arrangements with anyone? This is not an idle question, and I know this has been discussed to death on other threads, but realistically this whole strategy will come to naught if a place is not found. In addition, Israel would look foolish.

cerulean · 06-22-2002, 03:39 PM

This sentence indicates to me that the terrorist families will be moved to the Gaza Strip but I agree it's not clear where the terror operatives themselves will be expelled to. Maybe it's clearer in the Hebrew version of Haaretz?

The cabinet decided in principle in favor both of the expulsion of families of suicide strikers from the West Bank to the Gaza Strip, and of the expulsion of terror operatives from the territories.

One thing that we haven't discussed much on this forum is the role of the clan in Arab social life. From a brief summary I read somewhere, the clan is far more important to the average Arab than the country. And from what I understand, some clans are worse than others for producing suicide bombers or other "militants." I'm not even sure what constitutes a clan (presumably some sort of patriarchal arrangement, but I'm not sure), and many families insist their children marry within the clan.

alexbmn · 06-22-2002, 05:38 PM

wow good news upon good news. this is freaking amazing.After only 553 dead.There's a chance they are waking up.

L@mplighterM · 06-22-2002, 05:57 PM

Why not put them in jail with the settlers that were charged with killing Palestinians?

Adversary2Arabs · 06-24-2002, 05:36 PM

Why would they expel them, the best solution and deterrent would be to execute them. That would be the best deterrent in my view.

ibrodsky · 06-24-2002, 07:12 PM

In many cases the terrorists' family members are accomplices. But since Israel doesn't have the death penalty, you can't start by executing family members. Destroying their houses, arresting them, and deporting them would be better.

(Re: where to deport them to: They could be tossed over the border into Lebanon. The day is approaching when the US and Israel will be cleaning up that country...)

Israel is doing the right thing by basically executing terrorists, themselves, as was done today in Gaza by helicopter missile strike.

Keep up the good work, IDF and IAF!

alexbmn · 06-24-2002, 07:30 PM

unfortunately Israelis are looking for legal backing to take action against Palestininan families.(as if they need any justification)but its possible that they wont find it.

**Mediocrates** · 06-24-2002, 07:41 PM

They need to decapitate the operational command chain. Not from the very top but from fairly high and work their way down into the operational ranks - 1st and 2nd line 'commanders'. That kind of human intelligence and experience is very difficult to replace. Even decentralized cells have a chain of command and where the cells meet their resources for planning, recruitment, materiel and money is where they can be broken. It must be done with an absolutely ruthless singlemindedness and if that means that their families are targetted as well or are collateral than so be it. If you wanted to get rid of the Borgias or the Romanovs you wouldn't pick and choose, you'd eliminate them all without hesistation.

Adversary2Arabs · 06-25-2002, 01:27 PM

Israel could implement a system which allows death penalties to strictly terrorists and their accomplices? Couldnt they?

James · 06-26-2002, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Adversary2Arabs
Why would they expel them, the best solution and deterrent would be to execute them. That would be the best deterrent in my view.

The world would be against Israel and it's a big world. Expel
all Arabs and keep them at a safe distance. Somewhere like
Saudi Arabia.

James · 06-26-2002, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Mediocrates
They need to decapitate the operational command chain. Not from the very top but from fairly high and work their way down into the operational ranks - 1st and 2nd line 'commanders'. That kind of human intelligence and experience is very difficult to replace. Even decentralized cells have a chain of command and where the cells meet their resources for planning, recruitment, materiel and money is where they can be broken. It must be done with an absolutely ruthless singlemindedness and if that means that their families are targetted as well or are collateral than so be it. If you wanted to get rid of the Borgias or the Romanovs you wouldn't pick and choose, you'd eliminate them all without hesistation.

Why not start at the top and work down? When they replace the leaders start over again. Do they worry about collateral damage?
Not in a million years! Israel should ban (immediately) Arabs from
all territories not given to them.

**Mediocrates** · 06-27-2002, 04:26 AM

It's not politically acceptable to do that and it would blow back in their faces if they tried. The myth of Arafat is that he is a myth. You can't kill a myth. Better they should kick the legs out and let it collapse.

James · 06-27-2002, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Mediocrates
It's not politically acceptable to do that and it would blow back in their faces if they tried. The myth of Arafat is that he is a myth. You can't kill a myth. Better they should kick the legs out and let it collapse.

Arafat is a Cold Blooded Killer! It's time he received just what he has done. If you think by leaving him alone and the,"myth" will collapse, you are only partially correct. When he is gone, they will erect a statue in honor of all the great things he accomplished
for the Arabs.

Stage two is when the next one moves up and assumes control.
He will have to assert himself to show these Arabs he is worthy
to assume this power.

Elections: He (#2) will do whatever necessary to win, continue to harangue the Jews and support covert actions against Israel.

**Mediocrates** · 06-27-2002, 08:48 AM

Well that's what Machiavelli would say - kill the tyrant but not before you make arrangements with the new tyrant. But sadly half the world doesn't see him as tyrant which is why it would be politically difficult to do. Not that its not right, merely that it would make some things more difficult to do. Better to let him become impotent.