A Systems Analysts Approach to Conflict

[platypus]

Why not use a Systems Analysts Approach?

Systems Analysts (who are worth their salt) begin with the Universe, working inwards to the "Particular At Hand!" In this case, the conflict in what the USA calls the Far East.

In order to carry out such an analysis a person would of neccessity have to seek out the very root (origins) of the conflict in Historical Times and work from there to the present. Would we
find that the heart of this matter predates the Christian Era by many centuries or would it be something more recent? I pose this as an open question.

What I see above all else is a breakdown in "communications."
Sure, that sounds cliched and trite; but, in point of fact I propose
that to invite the oppositions to enterain a thought given as a probable solution (I almost typed *soul-ution*) would meet with a
species specific biological defense against hearing and understanding what one hears on the simple basis that no one can listen to two voices at the same time and make sense of them both, The two voices I am refering to are those of the speaker and the internal silent dialogue of the pesumed audience
which the auditor is monitoring whilst the speaker speaks -- this is
a major flaw in homo sapeins species specific sensoriums. There are very few who can silence their MIND as another speaks.

The adage: "I think, therefore I am!" is totally and absolutely wrong and I state that unequivocally. I AM, therefore, I think!

The human brain without its attached pilot wave and the resultant feed-back loop is simply a hunk of the "ROCKLIKE" Universe. With the attached Pilot Wave and feed-back loop, the
_MIND_ uses the device we call the brain and then that device --
the brain with its multi-billion to the googleplex power microtubules becomes part of the "Thought-Like Universe!"

So, what we can statistically anticipate as an outcome of this over-all situation is the Second Neuclear War!

It truly seems to be inevitable and neither you, nor I nor anyone
can avert it. Much as you might view mw as the penultimate pessimist I insist that I am keenly focussed on reality.
platypus
Post Script -- I ignore spelling and spell-check since doing so interferes with the creative flow of writing.

[Vic]

May I use the last sentence as a signature?

[elke]

Originally posted by Vic
May I use the last sentence as a signature?

Why would you do that? For insurance? Your spelling is great!

[Vic]

Originally posted by elke
Why would you do that? For insurance?

For wisdom and inspiration

[platypus]

Vic -- by all means feel free to use that sentence if you wish.
I don't copyright ...
"This is the way the world ends, this is the way the world ends,
this is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper!"

[elke]

Systems Analysts (who are worth their salt) begin with the Universe, working inwards to the "Particular At Hand!"

So, that's why every time I get involved with implementing a new computer system, nothing works! It's the fault of that devil who lives in the details...

Unfortunately, if you look at the historical information on which the parties in the ME base their views, the "narratives" given by the West vs. those given by the Arabs, are diametrically opposed. The differences are so dramatic, that if an alien were to look at these narratives, he/she/it/? would conclude that these are histories of entirely different places and times (either that, or that humans are incredibly weird - no surprise to us, humans there, right? :-))!

There is some discussion on whether it is possible to reconcile these narratives, but so far every attempt has failed miserably. It seems futile to continue that route, what with history not being an exact science and all, so it seems that we are basically down to ignoring all the narratives and starting afresh.

[ibrodsky]

And at bottom the reason why the narratives are so different is that while Israelis respect facts and reason, her Arab and Muslim enemies put the Koran, pride, and prejudice above all else.

Really, I have completely given up on the idea of "planning" or "designing" peace. After hearing Nabil Shaath today, I can see the chances of a negotiated settlement are less than zero.

The PA is not interested in a state of their own. They are interested in only one thing: destroying Israel. This is why the "right of return" to inside Israel is a sticking point for them.

Of course, they are habitual liars, and they might put that demand aside for a time just to get a state as a training and staging ground for their dirty war against the Jews.

Ironically, they reject the notion of a "provisional" state, but really this is exactly what they want. They will take the WB and Gaza for now, but the ultimate goal is the Jordan River to the sea.

I hope Israel's leaders are clear-eyed and can see this. The only solution is to truly crush the Palestinian terrorists. We Jews must begin thinking a little bit like Arabs: when confronted by a sworn enemy, we must adopt a "jihad" mentality.

P.S.: Enter this in your "systems analysis" process: Israel withdrew 100% from Lebanon, so Hezbollah simply redrew the map. I guarantee that if Israel withdrew to the "'67 borders" (you know, the borders the Arabs never accepted), the Palestinians would just make more excuses to keep the war going.

[platypus]

My response here is brief.
I appreciate honesty above all else in this forum, especially, and thus far all participating are expressing honest feeling and basic
intellect premises.
platypus

if not you, who?
if not now, when

[L@mplighterM]

I think that physiologists and physiatrists have attempted to evaluate the mind of sociopaths and psychopaths for some time.

How specifically can one make sense from the fact that suicide/homicide bombers believe that they will be greatly rewarded in the afterlife? They believe that their G-d rewards them for performing evil deeds. I think if you?re performing analysis of anything you have to use logic.

How do you know you are for that matter?

[platypus]

"How do you know that you are for that matter!?"
Because of biocenosis and the fact that I am one with the Universe and the Universe as the Only Singular Event has
no parts.
As a 'Pataphysicists I take into account my own ignorance as part of the entire picture.
I know the last word of every sentence I am going to utter before I even state it because I do not think in a linear manner.
The above quote demands analysis on the parsing level as well as on the etymological level and that is what I do.
The 'Pataphysical Platypus

[elke]

Originally posted by platypus
"How do you know that you are for that matter!?"
Because of biocenosis and the fact that I am one with the Universe and the Universe as the Only Singular Event has
no parts.
As a 'Pataphysicists I take into account my own ignorance as part of the entire picture.
I know the last word of every sentence I am going to utter before I even state it because I do not think in a linear manner.
The above quote demands analysis on the parsing level as well as on the etymological level and that is what I do.
The 'Pataphysical Platypus

Is that in COBOL? I am sorry, call me slow, but I didn't get that at all!

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Vic


platypus: Post Script -- I ignore spelling and spell-check since doing so interferes with the creative flow of writing.
...

May I use the last sentence as a signature?

Me too!

[platypus]

No, just basic Quantum Physics.

It has as much to offer as any of the other ongoing efforts since
all are ultimately to no avail.

Boom-chockalockaboom!

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by platypus
"How do you know that you are for that matter!?"
Because of biocenosis and the fact that I am one with the Universe and the Universe as the Only Singular Event has
no parts.
As a 'Pataphysicists I take into account my own ignorance as part of the entire picture.
I know the last word of every sentence I am going to utter before I even state it because I do not think in a linear manner.
The above quote demands analysis on the parsing level as well as on the etymological level and that is what I do.
The 'Pataphysical Platypus

How do you know the universe exists?

Let me guess!

You think therefore the universe exists or the universe exists therefore you think.