Is the Government Zionist At All?

[NewsGuy]

Listening to Israel's new ruling party Kadima laying out its plan to expel thousands of Jews from Judea and Samaria was disheartening. When I heard that Kadima will also give large parts of Jerusalem to the Arabs, it started to raise further concerns. And when I read that Israel's High Court allowed the participation of Arab parties whose express goal is to eliminate Israel's Jewish character, I started to develop a nagging suspicion that was later confirmed by one of Kadima's party leaders, Meir Sheetrit.

According to MK Sheetrit, "We don't have the baggage of the heritage of Zeev Jabotinsky or Berl Katzenelson on our back."

That says a lot more than many people may realize. In essence, all the above is an announcement that Kadima may not be a Zionist party altogether, even though it leads Israel's government.

It may be a government that does not believe in the right of the Jewish people to live in the Jewish homeland, and therefore it is expelling Jews from Judea and Samaria.

It certainly is a government that does not believe that Jerusalem is Israel's undivided capital, and therefore large parts of Jerusalem will be given to Arab rule.

And apparently it's a government that does not believe that Israel should be a Jewish state altogether, and therefore it allows Arab parties to run for office whose charters call for erasing Israel's Jewish character.

Taking all this into account, is Israel still a Zionist state?

[Mira]

I think they are trying to be pragmatic in a situation where they are damned no matter what they do.

[Leon]

except in this situation its going to cost them Jewish lives. Rather than bring security, they are unwittingly declaring and asking for all out war with the Arab-world.

[minusthejihad]

I think they are trying to be pragmatic in a situation where they are damned no matter what they do.

If they are damned either way, why not get the most for yourself and your people? I can try to rationalize their decisions a million ways and I keep coming back to the same conclusions:

Dumb Eurabian Inspired Jews.

[Mira]

If they are damned either way, why not get the most for yourself and your people? I can try to rationalize their decisions a million ways and I keep coming back to the same conclusions:

Dumb Eurabian Inspired Jews.

The Palestinians have time, demographics, and world opinion on their side. Consent is manufactured through intimidation and violence. They are also willing to die for Allah. Time is working against the Jewish people, we don't have world oppinion on our side, Jews have too many competing opinions and for the most part, lack a strong and cohesive ideology.

[Cato]

Do you guys even KNOW about the demographic threat?

Think with your brains not the Bible, if Israel keeps Judea and Samaria then Jews will be a minority in their own land, however if they give it up and evacuate many of the Settlers then the Jews will be an overwhelming majority in the Land of Israel and the demographic threat and world opinion will be on our side.

[NewsGuy]

Do you guys even KNOW about the demographic threat?

Think with your brains not the Bible, if Israel keeps Judea and Samaria then Jews will be a minority in their own land, however if they give it up and evacuate many of the Settlers then the Jews will be an overwhelming majority in the Land of Israel and the demographic threat and world opinion will be on our side.

I don't agree with that logic and, yes, I am aware of the demographic problem. The solution is to either transfer the Arabs back to their own homelands or to at least demand a reciprocal population exchange if any Jews are transferred. That solves the demographic problem.