India votes in favor of Goldstone report

[shravan]

Originally Posted by bararallu

Shravan,

Can you see the difference in that? I'm also not trying to imply that the Indian govt didnt call and try to placade my govt. There are govt things and then there are national things, I speak of the latter. When I pick up an Israeli paper I see that India voted with the animals. Every Israeli sees that as well. None of us have any allusions about realpolitik or of what nations are on our side of the chasm between civilization and barbarity. But most of us know there are ways not to be black and white about things either. We vote for the govt, not vice versa.

Yes I can see the difference.

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by shravan

If he says Jews Good - How is he going to earn money ?

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Best post here in a while.

Shravan, the fact that they allow that piece of dung to continue posting rights here is what keeps me and many others away from this forum.

The sad thing is that this a$$hole's posts are almost identical to posters using different IDs on a number of other forums I am tracking day to day.

When you say some people are being paid to spout propaganda across the web, you have no idea...

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by takeo

the same goes for many posters, you especially.

You are an embarrassment, and I am convinced you are a paid hack both here and on multiple other forums. The ONLY reason you are kept around IMO is the insane garbage you troll with generates angry responses, which provides more activity on the forum, which the admins can then present to potential advertisers.

In 4 years I have yet to see you even one post from you that was worth reading, not even one. Do us all a favor, and GTF off this board already.

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by pagan

If UPA govt voted against the report ,you should understand the risk they are taking . Muslims and leftists will hunt them down. At the present time India is too much dependent on Muslims on many factors(oil,vote..etc) it will be suicide for congress to vote against the report. First INDIA needs independence from oil. Then it needs to get all Indians out of middle east. After these two things only INDIA can publicly stand by Israel . Already Indians are more sympathetic to Israelis than Americans...See my signature.

Since the 1970s I have been urgently, strenuously advocating and working towards what would be perhaps the most perfect international alliance of all time: Japan, Israel and India pooling their advanced technological resources and scientific skills with which to develop, promote, and implement an alternative source of fuel/energy to oil.

It would solve so many problems for each of these energy-starved, isolated nations - 2 of which are perpetually blistered with arab-oil funded muslim-driven terrorist attacks.

[takeo]

Originally Posted by second_coming

Best post here in a while.

Shravan, the fact that they allow that piece of dung to continue posting rights here is what keeps me and many others away from this forum.

The sad thing is that this a$$hole's posts are almost identical to posters using different IDs on a number of other forums I am tracking day to day.

When you say some people are being paid to spout propaganda across the web, you have no idea...

second cumming...
It seems to me that you don't like people with different opinions. I'm always respectful, I have never questioned the legitimacy of Israel, and the only thing which sets me apart from the majority on this forum is the fact that I don't support the occupation of Westbank. You on the other hand are disrespectful, and you only seem to be able to post insults. If my posts keep you away that's more indicative of you than of me and my posts. You think only people who support the rightwing frindges as you should be allowed to post here, and you don't want to see any leftwing or liberal toughts?

[takeo]

Originally Posted by second_coming

You are an embarrassment, and I am convinced you are a paid hack both here and on multiple other forums. The ONLY reason you are kept around IMO is the insane garbage you troll with generates angry responses, which provides more activity on the forum, which the admins can then present to potential advertisers.

In 4 years I have yet to see you even one post from you that was worth reading, not even one. Do us all a favor, and GTF off this board already.

second cumming,

Yes you're right, I'm KGB and of course also on the payroll of AlQuaida, the Saudi's and of course Iran... I'm sure this site is their absolute priority...
Quite some posters respect me and my opinion, and if you don't, too bad for you. I have yet to see any interesting post of yours. And if you only want to debate with fellow rightwing extremists be my guest, there are enough of them on this forum. But as far as I know people with different ideas, as long as they are not antisemites, are allowed to post on this forum. And by the way I'm posting here since 2002, and, among many other things, I was the only one on this forum to criticise the decision to invade Iraq, and warned it would end in extremism and bloodshet, as it did. I was called a "saddamite" and a lier by people like you because I said there probaby weren't any WMD's in Iraq.

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by takeo

second cumming...
It seems to me that you don't like people with different opinions. I'm always respectful, I have never questioned the legitimacy of Israel, and the only thing which sets me apart from the majority on this forum is the fact that I don't support the occupation of Westbank. You on the other hand are disrespectful, and you only seem to be able to post insults. If my posts keep you away that's more indicative of you than of me and my posts. You think only people who support the rightwing frindges as you should be allowed to post here, and you don't want to see any leftwing or liberal toughts?

A$$hole, you talk about your being respectful but open your reply to me with an obvious name-calling insult. I also find it hilarious that you claim to be from Europe somewhere, but use an insulting word-phrase that only an American teen would use...

Your ID, which is probably being shared by multiple trolls, has the SAME EXACT background as five or six on other boards at last count;

1-pretends to have a jewish background;

2-maintains a communist/far-left approach that is anti-West and pro-Russian, Chinese and Muslim

3-never responds directly to points in post, obfuscating reponses and derailing threads when proven wrong;

4-shows signs of being paid to participate, evidenced by similar posts across boards - and has very high post counts at each board, further proving a likely paid position.

(Check out posters such as "DavidS" at www.usmessageboard.com and "Moon" at www.debatepolitics.com)

5-claims to merely be against "certain Israeli actions," but can be exposed through multiple postings as possessing a fervent hatred of jews and a broad anti-Israel demeanor.

You're a fraud and a lowlife, and if this board deigns to see fit to keep filth like you around to "stir the pot" driving thread activity through trolling/baiting, good for them, it's an old admin trick to increase forum activity, if only for the short-run.

As for you, you can drop dead, and do not bother posting responses to me further...

[takeo]

second_coming;

A$$hole

thank you

, you talk about your being respectful but open your reply to me with an obvious name-calling insult. I also find it hilarious that you claim to be from Europe somewhere, but use an insulting word-phrase that only an American teen would use...

Well we all watch American trashmovies.
And what I did is just returning the favor.

Your ID, which is probably being shared by multiple trolls, has the SAME EXACT background as five or six on other boards at last count;

really? you seem to know more than I do...

1-pretends to have a jewish background;

Well you know this is Israelforum, so it attracts Jews...

2-maintains a communist/far-left approach that is anti-West and pro-Russian, Chinese and Muslim

I'm not pro muslim, you can see that I'm anti religion. And I'm sure there are more communists with proChinese and proRussian ideas, as there are more people with your views.

3-never responds directly to points in post, obfuscating reponses and derailing threads when proven wrong;

nonsense, I always respond to almost every post when I'm around .

4-shows signs of being paid to participate, evidenced by similar posts across boards - and has very high post counts at each board, further proving a likely paid position.

yes I'm paid by the KGB, I admit... you people are far off...

(Check out posters such as "DavidS" at www.usmessageboard.com and "Moon" at www.debatepolitics.com)

give me a link to posts of these I don't find any.

5-claims to merely be against "certain Israeli actions," but can be exposed through multiple postings as possessing a fervent hatred of jews and a broad anti-Israel demeanor

really? Show me exactly in which post I expressed fervent hatred of Jews, and if you can't shut up you lier.

You're a fraud and a lowlife, and if this board deigns to see fit to keep filth like you around to "stir the pot" driving thread activity through trolling/baiting, good for them, it's an old admin trick to increase forum activity, if only for the short-run.

I can see that extremists like you don't like to hear other opinions, which makes you no better than muslim fundamentalists.

As for you, you can drop dead, and do not bother posting responses to me further...

I always try to respond to every reply. And by insulting me you only expose yourself as an intolerant extremist lowlife.

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by takeo

second_coming;

So now the jerk-off learned to spell...

Well we all watch American trashmovies. And what I did is just returning the favor.

Yeah sure BS artist; what film did you get that from, tell us?

Well you know this is Israelforum, so it attracts Jews

This forum is to espouse support for Israel, not attract Internet-wide trolls who attack jews and Israel. You are not wanted here.

I'm not pro muslim, you can see that I'm anti religion.

What you are is FOS, I see no posts from you complaining of anti-human rights actions taken by muslim countries, or nations of any kind OTHER than israel.

nonsense, I always respond to almost every post when I'm around.

Sorry charlie but you are a born liar. I go back here before you do, I just never joined, but there were many threads from 4-5 years ago where you were under attack by multiple posters for the crap you are pulling here.

Sadly, you got your wish and the forum went through a cleansing period where Newsguy cleaned house, getting rid of alot of the more aggressive pro-israel supporters.

What was interesting is that he did so right at the time that people were starting to come down on you aggressively...

yes I'm paid by the KGB, I admit...

Saudi-funded, bought and paid for propaganda, right out of WRMEA.

give me a link to posts of these I don't find any.

I did, but you're a liar so what is the point?

I can see that extremists like you don't like to hear other opinions, which makes you no better than muslim fundamentalists.

Really moron? This is a pro-Israel site - you don't like Israel, FO, there are plenty of other forums for the scum of humanity like you pretending to be "supportive of israel but questioning of their gov't," or some other tripe. Its old, tired BS.

I always try to respond to every reply. And by insulting me you only expose yourself as an intolerant extremist lowlife.

I insult frauds who lie and act in bad faith, and you are the bottom of the barrel.

[NewsGuy]

Originally Posted by second_coming

jerk-off... BS artist... You are not wanted here... you are a born liar... crap you are pulling here...you're a liar so what is the point... moron... scum of humanity... I insult frauds who lie and act in bad faith, and you are the bottom of the barrel.

Yep, that's the point, my friends, where takeo wins the argument in the eyes of anyone who is not already committed to either side of the issue. His opponent goes ballistic and loses credibility. So, takeo has actually managed (unfortunately once again) to come off as being civilized and logical, while the pro-Israel side is seen foaming at the mouth, although factually correct.

There is a huge difference between being "aggressive" and being out-of-control. Aggressive is no problem around here. Out of control is a problem.

Let's face it - Most of takeo's opinions about the Israeli-Arab conflict are despicable. On a basic level, he does not support the right of Jews to live freely in the Jewish homeland and he believes that Muslim terrorists are just "misunderstood." But on the other hand, this is pretty much the opinion of the corrupt and anti-Semitic European society he lives in, the UN, much of the Obama administration, and many Leftists all over the world, including the US and Israel. As despicable as it is, this is the reality in our world as of right now.

Even the current Netanyahu government understands that international law is not set up to deal with Muslim terrorists firing rockets from one civilian population center into another civilian population center. That's why Israel is petitioning the UN to change the international laws, because otherwise EVERY country fighting Muslim terrorism will be guilty of "crimes against humanity" just for defending itself.

This needs to be taken into account when debating Leftists.

I also believe that takeo (and sometimes andak) are intentionally lying to support their basic beliefs. Nothing wrong in pointing that out. But when personal insults are flying, the audience stops reading the thread, and the whole exercise becomes pointless.

To our wider audience, it's the same as reading Arab forums where the Muslim terror supporters personally attack pro-Israel members. people reading that stuff just conclude that both sides are crazy, and the forum is useless.

[second_coming]

Originally Posted by NewsGuy

Yep, that's the point, my friends, where takeo wins the argument in the eyes of anyone who is not already committed to either side of the issue. His opponent goes ballistic and loses credibility. So, takeo has actually managed (unfortunately once again) to come off as being civilized and logical, while the pro-Israel side is seen foaming at the mouth, although factually correct.

The frustration that builds over time until it overflows has to do with the admins' tolerance of posters like this, when they should have been banned a long time ago.

Should we invite David Duke and other scum to participate here as well? Perhaps we should elicit invites to Stormfront members, then we can really have a pleasant visit here.

NG, this might be "news" to you, but people come here as a RESPITE from the crap that goes on and is tolerated at various internet political forums. Arriving and seeing scum like takeo et al allowed to spew the same BS seen at other forums is just inexplicable - and unjustifiable - for a forum that is called "israelforum".

Let's face it - Most of takeo's opinions about the Israeli-Arab conflict are despicable. On a basic level, he does not support the right of Jews to live freely in the Jewish homeland and he believes that Muslim terrorists are just "misunderstood."

Then why are you allowing him to stay here, and continue to post? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of other forums where the garbage of humanity can justify arab muslim terrorism, it has no place here.

As I understand it, this forum serves as a meeting place for those who support the Homeland, and while this does not mean we all must agree on how Israel can be supported, it means at a base level all participants must accept that israel is the jewish homeland, and that terrorism under ANY circumstances - i.e., the targeting of civilians - is UNACCEPTABLE.

This needs to be taken into account when debating Leftists.

There are many "leftists" with intelligence, honesty, and of good faith. That other poster is not one of them.

To our wider audience, it's the same as reading Arab forums where the Muslim terror supporters personally attack pro-Israel members. people reading that stuff just conclude that both sides are crazy, and the forum is useless.

Which is why the admins here, just like at places like shiachat.com, clear the ardent pro-israel supporters out every day like yesterday's newspapers, this is a pro-israel site, and those who do not support its existence, or the right of its people to defend themselves, is a racist and should NOT be welcome here, or allowed to retain an account.