Palestinians celebrate after murdering Jews

Some of Israel's critics believe that while terrorism is distasteful Palestinians have no other alternative. "Israel has tanks, they have rocks" they say.

But if Palestinians use terrorism as a weapon of last resort, why do they hold joyous street festivals to celebrate the murder of innocent civilians?

How can anyone say they oppose terrorism but support the Palestinians? There is no one in Palestinian society who does anything significant to oppose terrorists. But literally thousands take to the streets to celebrate terrorist attacks.

I refuse to believe that all Palestinians are evil, bloodthirsty terrorists. But it is hard not to conclude that terrorists run Palestinian society.

But what other conclusion is there?

The hypocrisy of the Palestinians( I hate using that reference, as there is no PALESTINE, hence, no so called palestinians) in decrying the assault on their own, while celebrating the assault on their enemy, ought to be enough to inform the world.

But, it never is.

I do not know what will come of all this. Most of the time, I think that Israel should just run the SOB's out of the the WB and Gaza. But I know the international problem in this approach.

We are in some kind of...I hate to call it a...pause....but, truth be told, here in the US, we are waiting for the other shoe to fall and it is bound to do so, as this civilizational confrontation gels, and those who are so busy ignoring reality and indulging their materialistic fantasies, pretend that there is nothing of import to accomplish.

I have, for all intents and purposes, given up the hope that the average American will ever understand what it is that Israel suffers, and why every living heart ought to love and support her.

I hate to say it, but the future will come so painfully into our hands.

I pray for Israel. And, for all of us.

Originally posted by ibrodsky

I refuse to believe that all Palestinians are evil, bloodthirsty terrorists. But it is hard not to conclude that terrorists run Palestinian society.

Will you settle for 80 +/- % ?

We should not forget that it took the US a long time to discover Hitler was evil and find the nerve to fight him. In fact, we kept dragging our feet, and it was Hitler who finally threw the first punch.

I find an odd parallel in views about the economy. Even the Wall Street Journal buys the standard line that we narrowly escaped a recession. Now can you believe it: there are signs the "recovery" may be stalling.

Sorry if I sound overly pessimistic (I am more accustomed to being accused of being overly optimistic), but I think we are in an economic depression and simply don't know it. Technology is what drives the economy, and technology business is very sick right now.

Back to the topic, there seems to be a determination to avoid drawing obvious and necessary conclusions. There is no peace to "negotiate" with people who celebrate murder in public -- nor with the cowards & liars who say they oppose it but do nothing to stop it.

I think you are right: the whole US is just waiting for the next attack. It's time to wake up, because the next attack just happened. Hamas said they would go after American interests in the ME, and now there are five dead Americans. Just because the liars say it was not on purpose doesn't mean it wasn't.

We are fighting a war against terrorism, but groups like Hezbollah and Hamas operate quite boldly in the open. (We even complain about "heavy-handed" attacks on thiese savages.) We do not seem to have the will yet to truly fight them. Heck, Pres. Bush spent part of today meeting with Prince Abdullah. The message from Jordan was clear: Arab states must close ranks around their fellow dictator. If he develops nukes, well, Arab states have as much right to them as anyone. Of course, they will be used responsibly by states that offer rewards to terrorists.

Our gov't still thinks Saudi Arabia is an ally. Pathetic, really.

Originally posted by L@mplighterM


Will you settle for 80 +/- % ?

You are definitely in the ballpark.

Which raises the question: at what percentage point would carpet bombing be justified?

Originally posted by ibrodsky


You are definitely in the ballpark.

Which raises the question: at what percentage point would carpet bombing be justified?

If I say 50%+1 there’s going to be posters that give me flak so I wont write anything. Everyone is free to read my mind.

from Honest Reporting:

The media failed to report the mass celebrations in Gaza following the
Hebrew U attack. An estimated 10,000 Palestinian men, women and children
celebrated in the streets with clapping, singing and distributing sweets
-- while carrying pictures of Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin,
and calling for more suicide bombings.

This is in sharp contrast to the Israeli soul-searching and regret
following the deaths of civilians in the Shehadeh strike.

Amazingly, mention of the Gaza rally and celebrations was totally omitted
by many major news agencies, including:

- The New York Times
http://honestreporting.com/a/r/266.asp

- The Washington Post
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/art...2002Jul31.html

- BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2163677.stm

Associated Press notes the rally, but doesn't mention any celebrations.
http://honestreporting.com/a/r/267.asp

This mysterious omission calls to mind September 11, when Palestinians in
Beirut, Nablus and Jerusalem exploded in street celebrations -- rejoicing,
dancing and handing out candies.

Then, to prevent the world from seeing these incriminating images, armed
Palestinians (some in PA uniform) detained foreign journalists and
confiscated videotape, film and other camera equipment -- while
festivities continued in the streets. Journalists were threatened with
their life if the footage was broadcast. The scene was repeated three days
later, when 1,500 Palestinians demonstrated in Gaza by waving posters of
Osama bin Laden.

Were this week's Gaza celebrations subject to similar forms of
intimidation? Or perhaps journalists are practicing a form of
self-censorship, knowing the consequence of portraying Palestinians in an
unfavorable light.

[danholo]

Well I don't know how many supporters didn't come out in the open but 10,000 from 3 million isn't that much.

u r absolutley right, the terrorists run Palestinian society. ask any average Pal/Arab and they will say they want Arafat out. Take out the head and the body will follow. The ones that dont are the terrorists themselves

Originally posted by ayesha
u r absolutley right, the terrorists run Palestinian society. ask any average Pal/Arab and they will say they want Arafat out. Take out the head and the body will follow. The ones that dont are the terrorists themselves

Any practical suggestions on "taking the head out", Ayesha?

assasinate the brute. he is most responsible for the loss of israeli life as well as the palestinian. line up the shot, and take it

Originally posted by ayesha
assasinate the brute

Assasinate Arafat, you mean? Should the Israelis do it?

But what about the others? Look what happened after Israel has taken out Shehadeh...

i could not care less who does it vic. maybe a shot each? one leg 4 one leg etc etc. maybe im being harsh here but if he hasnt stepped down after all these years of knowing he hasnt brought ONE good thing to the land then he needs shooting because he is only there for selfish reasons he doesnt care about his duties. other than those that are in his best interests

ur right vic, taking shahade only brought another bombing. iv not really though this through but we have to think about how to change the mentality of the people before being successful. so that even after arafat there will be no more. how? i dont know, what do u think?

[Mediocrates]

It is not politically viable to assassinate Arafat. The anarchy that would result is only part of the problem including a possibility that Arab nations would move their armies into WB as a 'protective measure to restore order'. The other problem would be that our allies would drop all public support for anything the US wanted to do.

The second and third tier senior officers - the operational brain trust is the real target. Arafat moves these people around like chess pieces to keep them off balance so they are in a permanent state of friction with one another. So why not assassinate them instead. That experience, knowledge as well as their contact base is very hard to duplicate and relearn and rebuild so it would cripple the operations of terrorism.

Go after the finances of the PLO. It is under the control of Arafat and his wife - only those two can sign checks. But once it leaves their hands it gets turned into cash and used to kill. Track it there, confiscate it. Take the tools out of their hands - bullets, guns, explosives, cars, safe houses all cost money.

Go seriously into information/communications warfare. If nothing the Palistinians are technically savvy and use all the modern tools to manage their command structure. Crush it. Disrupt their cell phone networks, radio and TV transmissions, computer networks. Go active with a campaign to destroy hardware & infrastructure, cripple computer networks with all forms of viruses, cracking, DoS attacks.