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Old 08-07-2008, 07:01 PM   #1
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Indo-Israeli-US Nexus

This is what islam does to a human being's intelligence, such as it may be.

http://www.pakobserver.net/Articles01.asp

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The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. This lover of Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, the enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans. ——David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister Jewish Chronicle, 09 August 1967

David Ben Gurion’s words are still milk and honey to the Indians. India had been courting the Arabs but colluding with Israel for many years. Finally in 1992, under BJP pressure, the then Congress government in India established formal diplomatic relations with Israel. It may be recalled that in 1992, cash-starved India desperately needed $3 billion in aid from the World Bank and the IMF that operate under strict US control. It was decided to mobilize the support of the Jewish lobby in the USA to secure the loans. That is how Prime Minister Narasimha Rao became the first Indian head of Government to dump the PLO and openly court Israel according diplomatic recognition to Israel. Former US Congressman Stephen Solarz, who works closely with the Israeli lobby in the US and American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPC) has been guiding Indian lobby in the US. In June 1988, Mr. Solarz headed a delegation of Jewish leaders to India that met Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. He handed over a memorandum to Mr. Rajiv Gandhi that called for India’s recognition of Israel and the establishment of diplomatic ties. Recognition of Israel was accelerated by the collapse of the USSR and halt in Soviet arms supply to India. But the tilt had already started when India voted with the US for rescinding a UN resolution that equated Zionism with racism.
Vajpayee government shifted its focus from the Arab nations to Israel. The Asian Age commented that following the Israeli President’s state visit to India in 1996 (the first ever), Israel had signed lucrative agreements with the Indian armed forces, including upgradation of India’s MiG-21 aircraft and the ageing Jaguars, modernizing the electronic system of its aircraft carrier INS Vikrant, and replacement of Indian Army’s 130mm gun barrels with those of 155mm caliber. In 1996, the architect of India’s missile programme, and later the Indian President, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam made his first visit to Israel. It is ominous that in May 1998, India exploded five nuclear devices, out of which, it is believed that at least one if not two were Israeli. The Indo-Israeli nexus did not stop there but went a step further and tried to take out Pakistan’s nuclear programme like the Israeli aircraft had successfully destroyed Iraqi atomic reactors in 1981.
In June 2000, Shimon Peres’ on his visit to India was warmly welcomed by the Indians, especially after the Israeli foreign minister publicly extended his full support for India’s bid for a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council. The Palestinian President Yasser Arafat was extended a cold shoulder on his visit to India a week earlier. This is a far cry from Indian Independence Movement leader Mohandas K. Gandhi’s declaration that: “Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code or conduct.”
Since 1992, the trade between the two countries has grown from $ 200 million to $ 1 billion and there are more than 150 joint ventures. According to information gleaned from published sources, Israeli satellite Ofek-5 provide images of Pakistan’s atomic and military installations. Israel has delivered the highly advanced Green Pine radar system for Israel’s Arrow anti-missile missile, three electronic tracking and command centers and the Rafael version of the Popeye cruise missile.
Jane’s Information Group, the world’s premier intelligence information source, ominously reported in July 2001 that “The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism.”
With Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s September 7-10, 2003 visit to India, a new chapter of Indo-Israeli collusion opened. Having failed to develop its own AWAC system, India decided to acquire the Phalcon Radars and install them on the Russian IL-76 aircraft. Thus a tripartite agreement was signed on October 10th at the Indian Defence Ministry involving Israeli and Russian defense representatives. In 2006 Indian Army Chief JJ Singh visited Israel and reviewed ongoing projects with Israel, ranging from mounting of Israeli TISAS (thermal-imaging stand alone systems) on 500 BMP-2 infantry combat vehicles and the massive upgrade of 300 T-72M1 tanks to the production of hand-held thermal imagers and LORROS (long-range reconnaissance and observation systems).
Israelis supplied weapons from their operating units when India sought equipment at the height of the Kargil war in 1999. The Indian Army has been using the Israeli manufactured infantry rifles for the past few years in Kashmir and the 750-km long anti-infiltration fence along the Line of Control is fitted with Israeli anti-personnel devices like thermal imagers. The volume of defense business between the two countries can be gauged from the fact that Israel has already supplied Barak missiles to the navy, night fighting devices to the army and the air force, improving the radar network of the IAF supplying, besides hi-tech electronic warfare and information technology.
US-Israel relations are deep rooted; after 9/11 India reoriented its foreign policy to accommodate the changing realities of international milieu and find a position in USA -Israeli camp. The most striking commonality is their perception of Islam as their common enemy and their common target is illegal acquisition of wealth and resources of the Muslim World. US-India defense engagement has reached to new limits usually reserved for close US allies and friends, ranging from joint exercises in Alaska to sales of military hardware and sharing nuclear reactors, fuel and expertise. The ongoing acts of terrorism in Pakistan’s tribal belt are being attributed to this nexus, which portends ominous results, and Pakistan needs to be wary of it as Afghanistan is being used to forward the nefarious aims of the nexus.
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Old 08-07-2008, 07:12 PM   #2
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More paki brain f-arts!!
http://www.pakdef.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1697

We had been reading the name MOSSAD in the newspapers. But today you will know little bit more about Mossad and its role is destroying Muslims around the world and specially in South East Asia with the help of India RAW. Please read on..... In a fascinating plot, full of intrigue and betrayal, Mossad, RAW and Israeli Russian Ukrainian drug mafia seem to have joined hands:

...Mossad is the nickname of 'The Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks'(ha-Mossad le- Modiin ule-Tafkidim Meyuhadim).A compact body of about 1500 regular employees, Mossad relies on Jews and sympathizers worldwide forits operations. During last couple of years it has begun paying special attention to Pakistan,Iran and Central Asia. Hi-Tech Mossad Dan Yahkin, a Jewish analyst, wrote an article which was published on 19 April 2001 in Globes, a Tel Aviv publication.He narrates the story of 'Gil' and 'Or', pseudonym of two former operatives of Mossad.The contention behind his narrative is that Mossad is as hi tech as any outfit in the world, military or otherwise......

Raw-Mossad Connection:

Janes information group, the world's foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that the Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created "four new agencies"to infiltrate Pakistan to targetimportant religious and military personalities,journalists, judges,lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism....

It appears that RAW and Mossad-either singly or jointly, either covertly or overtly-have been making efforts to penetrate sensitive circles of top echelon in Pakistan......

What is clear right now is that Indian RAW and Israeli Mossad are collaborating extensively to curb the freedom movement of Kashmir and destabilize Pakistan. Indian newspaper The Pioneer, wrote on 3 March 2001: "Fencing of the Indo-Pak border is not enough.To check Pakistan sponsored cross-border terrorism, top security experts of Israel have suggested that hi-tech gadgets ranging from an electronic barrier system of radars to thermal imaging devices should be immediately installed on India's sensitive international border in J&K and Punjab sectors...........(Added my Shimon: How does stopping islam's terrorists from sneaking into Kashmr destabilize it??

Qutbuddin Aziz, former minister in Pakistan embassy in London,wrote an excellent article.....Aziz writes: "Top secret details of Indian Home Minister LK Advani's visit to Israel in June 2000, show that the deals he has struck with the Israelis would make India and Israel partners inthreatening the Muslim world with diabolic conspiracies to fragment and cripple it as a political force in the world. The details of his meetings with Israel's rulers, particularly the heads of the Israeli Home Ministry and its intelligence agencies, Mossad and Sabak, reveal that the arrangements he has made for joint Indo-Israel espionage operations in key areas of the Muslim world would make the Indian embassies in these Muslim countries the eyes and ears ofthe worldwide cloak-and-dagger Israeli spy network.

"Under the euphemism of "counter-terrorism", India is allowing Israel to establish a huge spy establishment in India which will,inter alia, unearth and monitor "Islamic fundamentalist and "individuals and groups for elimination by extra judicial process or by cold-blooded murder and kidnapping.

"The most important meeting Indian Home Minister Advani had during his three-day Israeli tour on June 13-16 was with the top brass of Israel's
intelligence agencies in Tel Aviv. Heading the Israeli team was the powerful chief of Israeli police, Yehuda Wilk,with the heads of the Israeli
intelligence agencies, Mossad and Sabak,and military officials dealing with Israel's punitive and espionage operations against Arabs in Israel, Palestine and neighbouring states such as Lebanon and Syria. Senior officials from the Israeli Foreign Office and the defence and home ministries attended this meeting.Israeli experts in bomb detection were also present....

"He lauded the Indo-Israeli cooperation in the military, economic and other fields. Advani recalled that India had voted in favour of a US-sponsored motion in the UN for rescinding a UN resolution that equated Zionism with racism. Mr Advani explained at length India's security problems in which the danger from Pakistan and Indian Muslims getting Arab money loomed large. Advani gave a long list of the special services in spying and the anti-insurgency devices and spy equipment India urgently needs from Israel to combat "Muslim terrorism".

"In the June 14 Tel Aviv meeting, the Israeli Police Chief, Yehuda Wilk, profusely praised India for its friendship with Israel and pledged help to
the Indian government in combating "Muslim terrorism" that poses new threats to Israel and India.The heads of India's intelligence agencies then briefed the Israeli side in the meeting on the ground situation in India in respect of "Muslim terrorists", especially in Jammu and Kashmir, and the new dangers coming up for India and Israel because of the Pakistani bomb and the fear that Pakistan may give its nuclear weapons to the anti-Israel Arabs.....

"The Israelis were interested in having access to the secret reports of Indian undercover RAW diplomats from certain Muslim countries of special
interest to Israel (especially Pakistan, Libya and Iran). India is apparently willing to grant access to Israeli agents to the Indian Home Ministry's
Central Intelligence Processing Unit (CIPU) in New Delhi. This was recently set up under Advani's direction with Israeli and US help. A handpicked RAW officer, trusted by Advani, heads this unit. Israel wants full access to its information data. The Indian government has already allowed access to it by American intelligence agencies now working with the Indian government on so-called anti-terrorist assignments."

Federation of American Scientists website comments on RAW in these words :"RAW has engaged in disinformation campaigns, espionage and sabotage against Pakistan and other neighboring countries. RAW has enjoyed the backing of successive Indian governments in these efforts. Working directly under the Prime Minister, the structure,rank,pay and perks of the Research & Analysis Wing are kept secret from Parliament."

Tarek Fatah, a scholar settled in Canada, wrote: "Britain's authoritative and respected defense publication, Jane's Terrorism & Security Monitor,
reports that Israel and India have formed military relationship and that Israeli intelligence is active in Occupied Kashmir. "It says: "Israeli intelligence agencies have been intensifying their relations with India's security apparatus and are now understood to be heavily involved in helping New Delhi combat Islamic militants in the disputed province of Kashmir..." Ed Blanche writes in Janes' Security on 14 August 2001: "Israeli intelligence agencies have been intensifying their relations with India's security apparatus and are now understood to be heavily involved in helping New Delhi combat Islamic militants in the disputed province of Kashmir, India's only Muslim-majority state which lies at the core of the conflict with neighbouring Pakistan.

"Israel has several teams now in Kashmir training Indian counter-insurgency forces to fight the dozen separatist guerrilla groups operating in the
Indian-controlled sector of the disputed state....

If there is still any doubt as to the real intentions of Israel, then please see this statement issued by David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister.His words, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle,9 August 1967, leaves nothing to imagination:

"The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this
ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. "This lover of the Arabs is more
dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps
against Pakistan. "Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. "It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans."


This brings us to the other reason for the Jewish Hindu friendship. Israel knows that the Hindus are the dominant group, at least numbers wise, in the Middle East. In UAE, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait they are very strong businessmen and hold strategic positions in many institutions. In Medina in Saudi Arabia, the best hotel closest to the Prophet's mosque is owned by a Hindu -- the Oberoi. These Hindus are a very effective third column in these Gulf States providing a wealth of information and ready for subversive action when required.(Can Muslims do something aboutthis?).One of the greatest abilities of Mossad is that it can mobilize US resources anywhere to protect Israeli interests. Now when Pakistan has already allowed US forces to use its soil, air and intelligence, is not it possible that Mossad's clever brains workout a scenario and push the American troops to do what the Mossad would like to do in Pakistan?
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Old 08-16-2008, 07:24 AM   #3
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now the lunatic pakis are afraid of jew-hindu alliance.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:40 AM   #4
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"now the lunatic pakis are afraid of jew-hindu alliance."

Good. May their actions create one.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:05 AM   #5
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Targets of Indo-Israeli secret diplomacy
Sajjad Shaukat
Both India and Israel which had openly jumped on Bush's anti-terrorism enterprise after the September 11, are acting upon a secret diplomacy, targeting Pakistan and China in particular and other regional countries in general. In this context, proper media coverage was not given to the Indo-Israeli secret diplomacy, which could be assessed from the interview of Israel's ambassador to India, Mark Sofer published in the Indian weekly Outlook on February 18, 2008. Regarding India's defence arrangements with Israel, Sofer had surprisingly disclosed "We do have a defence relationship with India, which is no secret. On the other hand, what is secret is the defence relationship". And "with all due respect, the secret part will remain a secret." On being asked whether he foresaw joint exercises, Sofer replied, "Certain issues need to remain under wraps for whatever reason." Indo-Israeli nexus remained under wraps till 2003, when Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon visited India to officially reveal it. In this respect, Indian 'The Tribune' wrote on September 10, 2003, "India and Israel took giant leaps forward in bolstering the existing strategic ties and forging new ones" and Tel Aviv has "agreed to share its expertise with India various fields as anti-fidayeen operations, surveillance satellites, intelligence sharing and space exploration." Next day, 'Indian Express', disclosed, "From anti-missile systems to hi-tech radars, from sky drones to night-vision equipment, Indo-Israeli defense cooperation has known no bounds in recent times". On September 5, 2003 American Wall Street Journal pointed out, "The U.S. finally gave its approval to Israel's delivery of Phalcon Airborne Warning & Controlling Systems (AWACS) to India"-this "sale might affect the conventional weapons balance between India and Pakistan". Before it, Jerusalem Post had also indicated about Israeli sale of the Arrow-II anti-ballistic missile defense system to India, revealing that "the U.S. was a collaborator in the project". The Post further elaborated that "Israel could be acquiring an element of strategic depth by setting up logistical bases in the Indian Ocean for its navy." In fact, links between India and Israel were started in the early years of the former Prime Minister Indra Gandhi when she asked the chief of RAW Rameshwar Nath Kao to establish a clandestine liaison with Mossad to monitor military relationship between Pakistan, China and North Korea. During the era of Zia-ul-Haq, a RAW-Mossad joint plot was detected to attack Pakistan's nuclear plant at Kahuta. The matter is not confined to purchasing of military equipments only, Indo-Israeli overt and covert links are part of a dangerous strategic game in Asia. In this connection, the then Israeli premier, Benjamin Netanyahu had already made it clear in July 1997 saying, "Our ties with India don't have any limitations-as long as India and Israel are friendly, it is a strategic gain". There are other reasons behind Indo-Israeli secret diplomacy. Fast growing economic power of China coupled with her rising strategic relationship with the Third World has been misperceived by the Americans and Indians. Owing to this jealousy, tactical support of Washington to New Delhi, indirect military aid through Israel, the US-India nuclear deal-all are part of American desire to make India a major power to counterbalance China in Asia as both of them see China a "future strategic competitor". As regards Indian new military build up, on May 31 this year, after 43 years, New Delhi re-opened its Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO) airbase in northern Ladakh, which overlooks the strategic Karakoram Pass and is only 8 km south of the Chinese border-Aksai Chin area. India has also erected more than 10 new helipads and roads between the Sino-Indian border. It is of particular attention that in May 1998, when India detonated five nuclear tests, the then Defense Minister George Fernandes had declared publicly that "China is India's potential threat No. 1." India which successfully tested missile, Agni-III in May 2007, has been extending its range to target all the big cities of China. On the other side, a 'nuclearized' Pakistan, depending upon minimum deterrence, having close ties with Beijing is another major target of the Indo-Israeli secret diplomacy. However, Beijing and Islamabad cannot neglect their common defence when their adversaries are following a covert strategy. Formation of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), voicing for a multi-polar system in the world might be cited as an example. Under the new proposed deal with Pakistan, China will be able to use the Karakoram Highway and ports of Gwadar and Karachi for transporting its goods to the Middle East and Africa. It is notable that on April 18, 2008, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi openly claimed that "some external forces were trying to weaken Pak-China strategic ties by creating misunderstandings". On August 8, 2007 Major Tanvir Hussain Syed (R), the former parliamentary secretary for defence accused the American CIA of killing Chinese nationals in Pakistan to harm the cordial relations between Islamabad and Beijing. It is mentionable that in the recent past, when anti-government violent protests by Buddhist monks erupted in Tibet's capital, Lhasa including nearby provinces, New Delhi, while acting upon a secret diplomacy backed the same, though outwardly denied. New Delhi shows that despite Sino-Indian border dispute, she does not favour an independence of Tibet and avoids any propaganda against Beijing. But Indian stand was indirectly expressed by its leaders and media. For example, the former foreign minister Yashwant Sinha said, "We want good relations with China, but if we reach a point of conflict over Tibet, we should be prepared for that eventuality." Indian media had left no stone unturned in exaggerating the casualties by manipulating China's crackdown against the militants of Tibet, which was essential to restore law and order. Nevertheless, it is because of the strategic developments in Asia that the issue of Tibet and Dalai Lama is being manipulated by the anti-China states. The state-run China Daily, on July 27, 2006, denounced the Lama as a "splittist" and pointed out that he has "collaborated with the Indian military and American CIA to organise Indian Tibetan special border troops to fight their way back into Tibet". As regards Islamabad, US, India, Afghanistan and Israel are in collusion as part of a plot to 'destabilize' Pakistan for their common strategic interests. It was due to new subversive acts of the militants in Balochistan and the tribal areas, especially Swat, backed by CIA, RAW, Khad and Mossad that on June 29, 2008, Prime Minister Gilani stated that there were "several enemies of the country" and "foreign hands were also involved in the acts of terrorism". On August 4, President Musharraf also said that India was behind the unrest in Balochistan, providing arms and ammunition to those involved in violence in the province. Recently, Islamabad indicated evidence that there are a number of Indian training camps in Afghanistan from where saboteurs are being sent to these areas to commit terrorist activities. During the recent trip of Prime Minister Gilani to the US, American media propagated ties between Pakistan's intelligence service, ISI and militants in the tribal regions, blaming it for the bombing of Indian embassy in Kabul on July 7. These false allegations were also repeated by Kabul and New Delhi. The main aim behind was to tarnish the image of ISI to conceal the clandestine activities of CIA, RAW, Mossad and Khad which have been creating unrest in Pakistan. The fact of the matter is that by availing the ongoing international phenomena of terrorism, Jewish-Hindu lobbies are collectively working in America and other European countries to exploit the double standards of the west in relation to terrorism and human rights vis-à-vis Pakistan and China. Israel and India are equating the 'war of independence' in Kashmir and Palestine with terrorism. They also accuse Iran, Syria and Pakistan of sponsoring cross-border terrorism in the related regions of South Asia and the Middle East. If India considers Pakistan as her enemy number one, Israel takes Iran in the same sense especially due to its nuclear programme which is also negated by the US. Tel Aviv is also against Pakistan as it is the only nuclear Islamic country. However, these similarities of interest have brought the two countries to follow a common secret diplomacy with the tactical support of Washington, targeting particularly Pakistan and China including other states like Nepal, North Korea, Bangladesh, Iran, Syria etc. sajjad_logic@yahoo.com
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