Does Hamas kill Palestinian Children to blame on Israel?

[CanDo]

It happens all too frequently. The IDF goes into the West Bank or Gaza, and somehow, sometimes mysteriously, a Palestinian child gets killed and the death is blamed on the IDF.

Just like clockwork, every time that there is a confrontation between Palestinians and the IDF, a Palestinian child, somehow is outside playing, or going to get candy at the store, and gets killed by the IDF, even if the IDF wasn't anywhere near the child.

Hamas has shown, many times in the past, that it targets children. I am convinced that Hamas has a policy of murdering (martyring) children of their own, to further their propaganda goals against Israel.

[NewsGuy]

Hamas is definitely killing Palestinian children in many ways.

First of all, they encourage children to confront armed Israeli soldiers and start scuffles, which of course lead to injuries and deaths.

Second, Hamas regularly shoots anti-tank missiles and fires machine guns from inside schools, mosques and homes, guaranteeing that the IDF will return fire.

The Hamas knows very well that dead Palestinian children are what gullible TV views around the world would rather see, instead of the real story, which is the bodies of the dead Israeli children. It makes for great propaganda, and the lives of Palestinians children are worthless to Hamas and often to their own parents, as well.

These may be concepts that are hard to swallow for Western society, but Palestinians society is so primitive that it is beyond most Westerner's comprehension. In Palestinian terms, a dead child who brings even a small PR victory, is worth much more than a live Palestinian child. Sad but true.

Third, Hamas regularly uses Palestinian schoolchildren to transport explosives in their backpacks, sometimes with remote detonators that Hamas members wait to set off when the child reaches an Israeli checkpoint.

But of course, all this is unpleasant for terrorism supporters to admit, so meanwhile Palestinian children continue to die at the hands of their own murderous brothers, hoping to shift the blame on to Israel.

[CanDo]

NewsGuy, I agree with you. Unfortunately, the Arab and Moslem worlds are winning the propaganda war against Israel. It isn't even close.

It amazes me that Israel puts so little effort into it's own press releases and propaganda. Losing the propaganda war, as bad as Israel is losing it, costs Jewish lives.

Jews, inside and outside of Israel, are portrayed as the villains, instead of the victims. The terrorists are portrayed as the freedom fighters, instead of brutal, corrupt, murdering thugs.

Many Jews were killed and injured in Egypt. But all I read is about a Palestinian girl who was supposedly shot by the IDF while she sat in class. The world has already forgotten about the Jews, and others, who were slaughtered in Egypt. The world has forgotten about the Hatuel family. A pregnant woman and her four daughters were slaughtered by violent, despicable Palestinian thugs. This is OK with most of the world, because Jews are reflected as the bad guys, because Arab/Moslem propaganda efforts are so much better than Israel's.

What will dominate the headlines for the next few weeks will be the Palestinian girl, who's death will be blamed on the IDF, and who was probably killed by her fellow Palestinians, or set up to be killed.

One would think that Israel would be capable of producing movies, press releases, songs, plays..... whatever, so that the Arab and Moslem world didn't look so right, and Israel not look so wrong.

A 10 year old girl was shot by IDF. A 13 year old girl was shot 20 times (that's right 20 times) only a day? earlier.

There is no excuse for a barbaric act like this. the news last night said two of the guys in the OP with the officer have said there was no reason for it, afterwards he even walked up to the body and carried on shooting. If he is not court marshalled then there is something vastly wrong in the IDF

[Mediocrates]

Read elsewhere here and you will find not only there are two reports that dispute that but also two men in that platoon have come forward saying the first report is wrong.

[Mediocrates]

Jenin was a lie too, wouldn't be the first time would it?

[CanDo]

Originally Posted by Herschel

A 10 year old girl was shot by IDF. A 13 year old girl was shot 20 times (that's right 20 times) only a day? earlier.

Arabs have been committing atrocities against the small minority of Jewish families, in the Middle East, for centuries.

Since the birth of Israel, the Arabs have been trying to wipe out Israel and kill all Jews, through many wars against Jews and through countless acts of barbarism.

Sorry to annoy you with facts and history. Your very first post jumped at the chance to condemn Israel, while at the same time, Jewish victims of Arab terrorism are currently being buried.

Hamas Arabs murders their own kids and blames it on the IDF, and most of the world jumps all over Israel. Hamas Arabs murder a pregnant mother and her four daughters, by shooting them in the head, while the little girls clung to each other, and people like you are strangely quiet.

Listen buddy, I am Jewish so please don't even go there.

Israel is illegally occupying land that is not theirs, it oppresses the people that live on it, it kills, bombs, destroys everything. Israel has just about violated every law there is. It is in violation of more UN resolution than any other country. These terrorists you keep referring to, in the 1940's, they were called partisans. your a hypocrite, and a clueless one at that, let a life.

To deliberately destroy civilian infrastructure is a violation of the Geneva convention = WAR CRIME

[KettleWhistle]

Originally Posted by Herschel

Listen buddy, I am Jewish so please don't even go there.

And so were many of those who operated the ovens in Aushwitz. You are just like them.

Originally Posted by Herschel

Israel is illegally occupying land that is not theirs,

No it does not, and there is no such thing as "illegal" occupation. Occupation is a consequence and/or result of war. You can try to dispute the legality of the 1967 war, but there is nothing legal or illegal about occupation.

Originally Posted by Herschel

it oppresses the people that live on it, it kills, bombs, destroys everything.

It should, but it doesn't. You are a liar.

Originally Posted by Herschel

To deliberately destroy civilian infrastructure is a violation of the Geneva convention = WAR CRIME

Another lie. There is no destruction of civilian infrastructure. Buildings taken over by millitants are not civilian.

In conclusion, our Arab foes must be calling you a "useful Jew."

So you clueless hypocrite, if you live in some apartment building (btw lets stick to the topic of the brutal murder of this child) thats has 80 apartments, and a terrorist with weapons moves into a couple of the appartments, your building is now legit target for bombing corect? and you would have no objections correct? even if your most important personal life belongings, home and baby/ies or disabled parents lived there?

[minusthejihad]

Originally Posted by Herschel

Listen buddy, I am Jewish so please don't even go there.

Israel is illegally occupying land that is not theirs, it oppresses the people that live on it, it kills, bombs, destroys everything. Israel has just about violated every law there is. It is in violation of more UN resolution than any other country. These terrorists you keep referring to, in the 1940's, they were called partisans. your a hypocrite, and a clueless one at that, let a life.

To deliberately destroy civilian infrastructure is a violation of the Geneva convention = WAR CRIME

Uhhu I'm not buying it. The part about you being Jewish Herschel (I like how you threw in the extra "c" for authenticity though.)

[minusthejihad]

Originally Posted by Herschel

So you clueless hypocrite, if you live in some apartment building (btw lets stick to the topic of the brutal murder of this child) thats has 80 apartments, and a terrorist with weapons moves into a couple of the appartments, your building is now legit target for bombing corect? and you would have no objections correct? even if your most important personal life belongings, home and baby/ies or disabled parents lived there?

I don't think that you'll find anyone here that approves the death of that girl or any other innocent bystander, neighbor, relative, etc. Its a terrible shame what happens during a war for both parties. Its settled.

Now enough about that, lets talk about you buddy!

[KettleWhistle]

Originally Posted by Herschel

So you clueless hypocrite, if you live in some apartment building (btw lets stick to the topic of the brutal murder of this child) thats has 80 apartments, and a terrorist with weapons moves into a couple of the appartments, your building is now legit target for bombing corect? and you would have no objections correct? even if your most important personal life belongings, home and baby/ies or disabled parents lived there?

Yes, if the terrorists are shooting from it, it becomes a legitimate target. Additionally, it's not like you'd care, but Israel has been on the forefront of devolpment of precision weapons, the type that would destroy just one apartment, and leave others in tact. This is what they often use to take out the terrorists.

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Maybe this kind of posting works under whatever rock you crawled from, or Utne reader or CSPAN or Jihads R Us. Sorry though it won't work here.

[minusthejihad]

Thanks for the Word of the Day. I guess it qualifies as the word for 10/14/04, so you have to wait to bust another out until the 15th if you don't mind.

Oh, also, just thought I'd mention this seeing you may want to toy with some other posters, but (whisper) you're breaking the forum rules with your personal attacks.(whisper)

Anyway, I'm going to sleep in a few so you may want to come back in a couple hours when people on the east coast get into work and have some coffee time to read over your fantastic! remarks. Nighty night computer cowboy!