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Old 11-22-2005, 09:31 AM   #1
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Israel to protest Hitler praise in Indian state's school textbooks

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New Delhi (dpa) - Israel is planning to protest a western Indian state's move to include references in school books that glorify Adolf Hitler, a news report said Friday.

The Israeli Embassy is planning to communicate its displeasure to Gujarat state, appalled that the school textbooks "sing praises" of Hitler, the Indian Express reported.

The state is ruled by the Hindu rightist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).
Israel's Consul general in Bombay, Daniel Zonshine said the representation of Hitler in Gujarat's textbooks was "misleading".

"Personally, I feel offended, and publicly, the representation has caused anger and unhappiness at the twisting of facts," Zonshine was quoted by the paper as saying.

Zonshine said the protest could include writing to the state government. "We are exploring options, coordinating and exchanging views on this."

He added Israel plans to get the support of Germany. "It could also be a joint effort with the German embassy," he said.

The controversy concerns a Class X text book of the Gujarat Education Board that is silent on the holocaust and glorifies Hitler. In a section on "Internal achievements of Nazism", the school book states; "Hitler adopted a new economic policy and brought prosperity to Germany. He made untiring efforts to make Germany self reliant within one decade".

The Catholic Bishops Conference of India (CBCI) has also demanded the textbooks be withdrawn, stating the books are full of prejudices and hatred towards religious minorities.
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Old 11-22-2005, 09:44 AM   #2
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They must have Pat Buchanan writing their textbooks now.

"If Hitler died in 1937 he would go down as one of the great men of the 20th Century" - Patrick Buchanan, pundit and former Presidential speechwriter.
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:17 AM   #3
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They must have Pat Buchanan writing their textbooks now.

"If Hitler died in 1937 he would go down as one of the great men of the 20th Century" - Patrick Buchanan, pundit and former Presidential speechwriter.
Egypt ones broadcast on TV documentary film of Hitler only it was about his humanitarian side...
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:28 PM   #4
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This is not the first time that a state hasn't done something stupid or absolutely inflamatory in high school text books or written exams. Very few people know of the Holocaust in India and that should be explicit in high school texts.

Certainly, no one in any state in India is anti-semitic.

Hopefully, they'll clean this up. Other than that, the Gujarat state govt. is a good operation in terms of development and economic progress.
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Old 11-22-2005, 02:54 PM   #5
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They must have Pat Buchanan writing their textbooks now.

"If Hitler died in 1937 he would go down as one of the great men of the 20th Century" - Patrick Buchanan, pundit and former Presidential speechwriter.

Now now, Medio. You didn't read the rest of his statement. He said if we had known what he was going to do, and the genocide he was going to commit against the Jews and others we would have taken him out earlier.

Be fair!!
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:06 PM   #6
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The Nuremberg race laws were passed in 1933. And let's face facts, the whole world knew at the 1936 Olympics what was going on. Moreover Walter Winchell had been making radio broadcasts as early as 1934 about the Final Solution.
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:31 PM   #7
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The Nuremberg race laws were passed in 1933. And let's face facts, the whole world knew at the 1936 Olympics what was going on. Moreover Walter Winchell had been making radio broadcasts as early as 1934 about the Final Solution.
Ok, you force me to get his actual quote. I cannot sit by and have someone I respect slandered. (again).

"If Hitler had died in 1937 on the fourth anniversary of his coming to power... he would undoubtedly have gone down as one of the greatest figures of German history. Throughout Europe he had millions of admirers. Gertrude Stein (who found Roosevelt boring) thought Hitler should get the Nobel Peace Prize. In magazine and newspaper articles George Bernard Shaw defended Hitler and other dictators." So writes John Toland in his brilliant biography of Hitler.

From his masterful study in tyranny, a generation without memory of World War II can learn the lessons the West has already forgotten.
Those of us in childhood during the war years were introduced to Hitler only as caricature. Either he was a ranting, raving, carpet-chewing Chaplinesque buffoon -- or the anti-Christ, Satan Incarnate, a devil without human attribute who had hypnotized the German people.

Such ignorance is folly. Though Hitler was indeed racist and anti-Semitic to the core, a man who without compunction could commit murder and genocide, he was also an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him.

.......Had he preached at Munich in 1933 of his New Order, a thousand-year-old Reich where the Jew would be exterminated, the 'lesser' peoples enslaved, and the German would rule, East and West Europe might have united to destroy him.

Instead he cloaked each of his territorial seizures in the rhetoric of rationality and righteousness. When his battalions marched into the Rhineland, even the liberal British Lord Lothian declared, 'The Germans, after all, are only going into their own back garden.....
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:34 PM   #8
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None the less the facts were known world wide as early as 1933 - 34 what was already going on in Germany. There is not a single newspaper reading person in the world who could claim they didn't know. There were books, newspapers, newsreels, columns and so on printed in English in the US. An analytical 'study' of the time can't avoid that. And anyone who supposes that even as early as 1937 that Hitler would be written down as a 'great man' is delusional or hiding an agenda.
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:25 PM   #9
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None the less the facts were known world wide as early as 1933 - 34 what was already going on in Germany. There is not a single newspaper reading person in the world who could claim they didn't know. There were books, newspapers, newsreels, columns and so on printed in English in the US. An analytical 'study' of the time can't avoid that. And anyone who supposes that even as early as 1937 that Hitler would be written down as a 'great man' is delusional or hiding an agenda.
So are you protesting Buchanan or Toland? Toland is the one who said it. Buchanan is pointing out the lack of fortitude in Europe to see who Hitler really was....and how we are lacking fortitude even today.




....."Almost alone among European statesmen, Churchill saw that -- under the guise of restoring Germany to her rightful place among nations -- Hitler was marching along the road toward a New Order where Western civilization would not survive".....
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:41 PM   #10
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Sometimes, the books are written by pea-brained government teachers ,so called scholars, who are not even qualified to be a clerk.

Believe me, lots of disparaging things have been written in Indian books about Hindus/Sikhs themselves.

There is not even any mention of Islamic genocide and holocaust against Hindus and by one estimate more than 80 million Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs have been wiped out in India over the period of islamic rule.

There is not a shred of anti-semitism in India.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:36 AM   #11
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I am so sick of people writing books that glorify Hitler, and then try to pass those books off to students as truthful history.
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:02 AM   #12
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to be the fault not of the Indian state as a whole, but of the regional authorities of Gujarat.

Need to read a little on the BJP.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to be the fault not of the Indian state as a whole, but of the regional authorities of Gujarat.

Need to read a little on the BJP.

I don't think that there is any conspiracy to glorify hitler. Neither BJP is involved in it. The business and military relationship between India and Israel grew most during BJP rule. Infact, a full fledged diplomatic relationship was established during BJP rule and strategic alliance between Israel and India was acknowledged publicly.


It could be an act of omission and commission....typical of government functioning in India...need to be corrected.

I am sure sooner or later they will rectify it.
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Correct me if I am wrong but is it not Indian government govern by islamic party ?
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Correct me if I am wrong but is it not Indian government govern by islamic party ?

Indian government is run by centre-leftists, so called secular ,but infact muslim appeaser party. It is not an Islamic party per se. But it definitely panders Muslims.

In fact, one of its allies fielded Osama look alike to appease Muslim voters in one of the state elections.

Height of sycophancy.....
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